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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Between blowing up a Borg transwarp conduit, averting an Omega catastrophe, and surviving an absurd lost in deep space scenario, is there anything in the Voyager mission log that wouldn’t get chalked up to, “Well you were on your own and had to make some difficult choices.”

Their botched alliance with the Kazon, giving holographic technology to the Hirogen, and the whole Tuvix episode would likely be footnotes during her debrief. They’d probably spend more time asking questions about meeting Amelia Earhart, proving that a graviton ellipse swallowed the Aries VI orbiter, and wanting to know more about… am I reading this correctly? A space pitcher plant?

You have to imagine her initial encounter with the Caretaker would get the most interrogation. In hindsight would a Federation council agree with her decision to blow up the caretaker’s array, or would Starfleet captains get sent some additional footnotes to the prime directive about not stranding your crew seventy years away from home?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Someone should actually make a spreadsheet from every episode evaluating every single decision she made, and try to do some honest ethical calculus on it. I think that would be an awesome post and worthy of some serious discussion here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

I want someone more talented than me to write an in universe biography.

As if a biographer interviewed the crew and Janeway. Read logs etc.

It could include details about her early life, the time on Voyager, then afterwards. Court cases, and how revelations came out.

A whole life biography of Janeway is a standalone book.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Or maybe they'll add a timed detonation mode to future torpedoes so they can jump and then blow up the array.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's weird that this "Ensign Kim" would forget to refill the coffee pot so many times, and also weird that it makes it into the Captain's log each time.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"We're going to have to promote this guy to fleet admiral to make up for the ensign thing..."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Janeway running in from another room: "But since he's not the original Harry Kim, he still has to put in the appropriate amount of time!"

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This bitch turned into a lizard and had babies

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

and then they just LEFT THEM THERE.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO GO GET THEM! THEY COULD HAVE USED THE TRANSPORTER IT WOULDN'T BE HARD TO SET IT TO FUCKING WEIRD ASS HUMAN LIZARD

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For all we know, as an invasive species, Sluggo completely destroyed that planet's biosphere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Exactly! It pissed me off when the episode aired and it still annoys me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"By the way, faster than warp 10? Not a good move."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Faster tho is just fine because in the last episode of TNG the future enterprise went warp 13. Which, obviously, is why it had 3 nacelles

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Except The Doctor was able to reverse it.

They could have traveled home, turned into lizards, have it reversed, be home YEARS early.

And even if it was considered too risky once they get home I'm sure someone, with all of Starfleet behind them, will find a good use for the technology.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Starfleet, after reading the log for Threshold: PROMOTE THIS WOMAN TO ADMIRAL NOW!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean they had Voyagers logs ever since Barclay did stuff with the MIDAS array.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

got promoted to stay out of trouble, just like the rest!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Here is your desk. You are never setting foot on a ship again."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

"Look, stop trying to go to the nebula and just use the replicator like a normal person."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biggest takeaway from the entire fiasco .... hire more Captains with a caffeine addiction

Caffeine addiction is so powerful, it will drive normal human beings to travel right across the galaxy with a moderate ship, skeleton crew, murder, mayhem and lots of motivation.

Coffee ... it not only makes the world go round, it brings the galaxy within our grasp

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So your saying coffee is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be.... unnatural?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

It's not something Earl Grey drinkers would tell you about

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"You did what to this Tuvix person?!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for the murder trial where Tuvok and Neelix are called as witnesses

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Now that I think about it, something that hasn't been brought up in the Tuvix arguments is that Tuvok and Neelix remember being Tuvix. There's continuity of consciousness continuing from Tuvix, which makes the whole thing even more complicated.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Janeway "you keep calling it a person and that's why you're in the brig"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah they cool. It's not like she promoted any Ensigns.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

F U Kim lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please, I need to find a Voyager episode. The ship drifting in some kind of void/complete darkness (I think they're running away or hiding from something too).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's actually "Night." It's the first episode where they encounter the Malon. There are peaceful aliens living in the darkness, but the Malon's dumping of radioactive waste in their territory is killing them, so they attack Voyager thinking they're like the others.

The Void is the one where they get trapped in a little pocket universe with some other ships and can't figure out how to escape, while the pocket dimension is closing in on itself threatening to destroy everyone trapped inside.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Thank you a thousand times.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The biggest issue will be how she manufactured all those brand new shuttlecraft since they were constantly getting destroyed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Industrial replicators for engineering components. Would seem basic for any long range explorer class ship.

In Prodigy, the ship has a dedicated vehicle replicator that can make all terrain vehicles and shuttles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Have you heard of a replicator??

"One shuttlecraft, this time make it extra extra sturdy!"

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