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Italian media has said that the pope used a highly derogatory slur against LGBTQ+ people at a bishops conference. The remark may sour attempts by the pope to make the church more welcoming.

Pope Francis allegedly used a highly offensive term to refer to LGBTQ+ people during a closed-door meeting with Italian bishops, Italian media reported on Tuesday.

The major Italian daily newspapers La Repubblica and Corriere della Sera both cited anonymous sources as saying that the pope had made the remark while reiterating his position against gay people becoming priests.

The 87-year-old pontiff was reported as saying that the Catholic seminaries were already too full of "frociaggine" — a highly derogatory term in Italian.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Former Catholic, now atheist. I’m glad the Pope is making some progressive steps in the Catholic Church including the LGTBQ+ community.

I hope this was a misstep, and the case of a 90-year old man from a different country using language that he was not aware is a slur. I really really hope that, or else all that good will was for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Don't hold out hope

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm so glad the pedophile ring is invluding the lgtbq+ community. They are so nice and progressive. If i were gay, the first thing i'd wish for is that the pedos like me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I "meet" a gay religious Catholic once online and my brain is still recovering from it.

Why? Why? It makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Get raised catholic, turn out gay. What's to make sense of? Lots of religious followers cherry pick the bits of text they like and disregard the rest, why should gays be any more rational?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can't think of a single institution that has done as much damage to the LGBT as the RCC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

maybe so from a first world perspective, not that they've been idle in developing nations. but plenty of governments don't need the pope's say so to criminalise non-heterosexuality

https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I mean single institution. They have been around for almost 20 centuries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

But if you truly believe in the religion, what does that change?

Like I can absolutely abhor some of the things people have done in the name of medicine and often are still doing, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop going to doctors when I'm sick. Because I fundamentally believe in medical science and that I'm more likely to die without them. If you are raised catholic, there's a good chance you fundamentally believe your eternal life is better if you continue to follow the religion. Sure, I probably have more proof, but their belief is just as strong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

When seemingly everyone in your life is telling you lies about "oh we just hate the sin, not the sinner", it's really hard to see it for what it is That and some very specific parts of Catholicism and Christianity in general are very comforting. Also, if you were born into it, breaking away could mean losing everyone close to you or having to put up with people trying to convert you back

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look, apologist for people who justify raping small children, then slur was intentional, and you’re being eye-rolling naive in the most generous reading of your comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The world is a much better place if you don't whip yourself into a frenzy at every opportunity.