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Saw the post- knew exactly who shared it.
Good for being observant?
What are your thoughts on the tweet?
My opinion is that the media is being sensationalists about his performance. While it wasn’t stellar, it wasn’t as bad as people like you are making it out to be.
He’s also known to not be very good at public speaking. It’s been known his entire career. Yet you all seem to conveniently forever this when it helps push your agenda. And while he’s not someone that would even be my 10th pick for the job, I’d vote for anyone other than Trump. With maybe the exception of someone like you.
Yet you, and the other propagandists seem to not even bother mentioning how Trump barely answered any of the questions at all.
Just “biDeN iZ old!”
I really wonder why that is. You people have NO idea how bad things will be if we don’t install that walking corpse in the White House. Trump will destroy democracy. This isn’t a fucking joke. A convicted rapist and a felon is going to lead this country. This isn’t the time to stand on principle over shit you didn’t even care about a fucking YEAR ago.
My adgenda is "oh god I don't want to be killed and fools will fall for however the right spins this while liberals downplay the impact."
You don't understand that a lot of the country will never see the debate, only clipreels of whatever the fascist supporting media will put out to make more money (which is more drama).
I mean, yeah Biden hasn't been great at campaigning this time. He's been significantly better at the actual job, and we don't only elect the person. We elect their cabinet effectively as well and Biden surrounds himself with much more competent staff than Trump who has several staffers up for felonies, nevermind himself.
Am I worried? Just about you assholes who keep forgetting that the president doesn't do everything themselves.
Loads of felonies being led by a convicted felon who has said he would commit more crimes the second in office... vs one guy in the group being "old" despite only being a few years older than his opponent.
I get it, Biden is old. I don't get how that one fact counters every other one from the other side.
Well said.
Umm no one here is being swayed by Biden being old to vote for Trump. I'm worried about those gullible people put there who will fall for it, who have been falling for this same thing since Reagan. There are so many out there that are too illiterate to sit through a debate and depend on short clips (foolishly) to get the vibe, and Biden tripped up and handed over a lot of fodder for dishonest people to use to generate disingenuous footage. We have been sold the idea that you need a strong personality (or at least a strong face) to operate on a state level and have been since... idk Roosevelt is the first personality I can think of where that was played up in school.
You don't seem to understand that most of America doesn't run on reasoning for decision-making, but fear, and the right is a master of wielding that very effectively.
I do understand that those strategies have some effect. I disagree that it means reason is moot, and the more shits that come out of the woodwork with doomerism the more effective it is so I have a question for you. Why are you pushing that narrative as well? What are you doing to change it other than point it out?
Half the country runs believing in Fox News, and our literacy is below the sixth grade level, well before reasoning is introduced to the curriculum. I consider myself a fairly logical person, and I see the idea of operating on reason-first (I phrase like this for clarity, as emotional-based choice is valid after processing after reasoning is established) virtually never followed, even when claimed. I have lost multiple jobs because of this exact problem. I am an advocate of it in all situations.
Outside of my bubble, I have watched universities purge philosophy, and all philosophy courses, from their systems. There's a shift in the definition of True, with the "post-truth" movement. You can see how much reason influences the public with how they prosecute minorities, where bigotry is believed over decades of statistics.
Reasoning is non-existent here. Moot, no, reasoning is not of no practical importance, but it cannot be depended on here at this point.
Hey just checking in, how are youbfeeling about the situation now?
With Kamala now the democratic nominee?
I'm not a big fan of former law enforcement (prosecutor at least) being in charge but everything else she's done seems to at least suggest that she takes her jobs seriously along with the responsibility they entail.
I'm waiting to see who the VP is before I get too gung ho, but so far I'm pretty on board.
I don't know exactly why Biden waited so long to decide not to run again but I am happy he provided a good bit of shielding and wasted a ton of the GOP's money on attack ads that can almost be mirrored for free against their nominee.
I think we're gonna see some really ugly rhetoric from the right over her being the nominee and that doesn't make me jazzed. I worry that it will spark another rise in anti immigrant/minority rhetoric and violence like the BS about COVID did, and I work in and among minority groups so I worry what it will do to their outlooks on their future and how they feel about the country they are a part of.
Any specific aspect you want to ask me about or is that just a generic response request?
Wanted to see where you were at after being so stuck you couldn't see that Biden was a bad choice and that it wasn't too late. And maybe an apology would be nice for name calling.
Well that's a shit way to put it.
Biden was an ok choice and he was still polling strong. Him deciding to abstain from the final run doesn't mean he was a bad choice, not does it make any of your analysis correct.
Also: You're still a doomsaying asshole. Not once did you make a reasonable argument supported by data other than your feelings but you continued to push out "If we keep behind a president who has arguably been extremely effective at doing shit, we're handing the election to the guys who eat horse paste and spent double Bidens addition to the deficit for tax breaks while screaming about fiscal responsibility..... because he's a couple years older than the other guy and seems like he's old instead of spouting gibberish and easily proven lies".
My thoughts are "well well, if it isnt the consequences of our actions"
Consequences of whose actions exactly? Are you talking about the SJWs that sit on their asses for three years in between elections and are less politically active than their house pets and the decide to become so- only to think that they’re doing their part by telling others NOT to vote?
Do you mean those people?
Everyone responsible for this reality where these two people, that are entirely unfit for it, are the most popular presidential candidates.
There are no real winners here. Everyone is gonna have it worse after this election, except for rich people.
If the media had started bullying biden earlier, there would be a different democratic candidate now.
But at the end of the day, our friends and family in the LGBTQ+ community won’t have to suffer under the iron fist of one of the choices-
and this is just one of the many reasons outlined in Project 2025 that give reason to vote against Trump.
Lives and freedom depend on voting this time.