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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t understand what the problem is.

The fact that "Voter ID in England led to racial and disability discrimination".

Maybe read the article?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He doesn't consider that to be a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it hard to get an ID/passport in the UK or are their disabled people just even more disabled than in the rest of the world? Maybe the problem here is infrastructure (or lack thereof). You could be the most disabled person in Sweden and your caretaker would still take you to the tax agency or police to get identification of some sort. Not having any way to identify yourself is pretty much unheard of here except for the severely mentally ill who refuse help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Passports are expensive & disabled people are poor. And no, there's not much help for disabled people in Tory Britain. Also it's a bit of a Catch-22, it's hard to get ID that proves who you are without ID that proves who you are. Currently having that problem with a disabled family member and haven't found a solution yet.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What discrimination? Every citizen should have a passport. That's how it works in every developed country!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's explained in the article. So I will say it again: "Maybe read the article?"

Not every citizen has a passport. And they usually aren't free either.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, why? How's this even possible? Or legal?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't give a shit about the article. Why is it possible to live in a country without a passport? That doesn't make any fucking sense!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you don't need a passport? It's not something everyone needs or has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay. So make passports free to apply for and renew, and make the application process possible from every Post Office, including on Saturdays. And maybe then that will be a fair way to require voter ID.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That I can agree with for sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you need a passport if you aren't leaving the country?

It's a piece of paper you buy every ten years if you want to travel across national borders, it's not like some intrinsic part of your being.

At the point that the new voter ID legislation was introduced, about 8% of the electorate - ~3.5m people - did not have a passport or a driving licence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You need a passport to protect yourself from identity theft. Britain is quite a unique country, where this shit happens regularly. Back in my home country no large financial transaction can go without solicitor approval and you being in person with your valid passport. But here you can see a post about wife/husband secretly opening credit cards in the name of their partner on Reddit every bloody month! All you need to know is their name and residency address for the last three years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If passports were given out for free then sure, but they're really fucking expensive. Mine expired years ago, but since I can't afford to travel anyway I'm hardly going to scrape together the £80+ for a new one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Britain is very weird. How do you even live without a passport? No wonder Britain has plenty of identity theft going on...