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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it's only a matter of time before those don't work anymore

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will always be a technology race. And it's one that so far the content platforms have lost.

Especially given they always abuse the upper hand when they have it, motivating the coding community to solve that problem right quick.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

it's a race that they will win easily with something like this https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md#goals

go ahead and downvote me it will help you make your point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ll do my part in helping you make your point, sir!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While it's unlikely that they won't attempt to get something similar to WEI onto the internet at some point, they have recently given up on this iteration of the concept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

true statements

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with you that such efforts are always a threat, and I'm reminded both of the V-Chip and the current efforts in the UK to keep blokes from watching their porn (anonymously, that is, without ending up on a registry of porn watchers), what may end up adding the right to porn access as a specific chartered right in our universal charters (and some national / state charters). Here in California, the right to produce porn is explicitly established in state law, which is embarrassing to some, a point of pride to others.

The MPAA and RIAA also tried to get all the ISPs to agree to shut down (or throttle) service after twelve strikes by an anti-piracy board, who would track the IP addies of torrents. This fueled the development of magnet links (now the standard). And meant that Xfinity and AT&T had to be extra shitty to customers due to causes they don't care about, while folks are already desperate to disconnect from them in favor of an alternative. So they haven't really be enforcing it.

And yes, Google is retreating on the WEI thing for now (if only they could get the federal government to pass a law) but the blowback on an eventual universal DRM is going to be severe, including revealing to the world that TPMs don't do what they are supposed to do as explained to the end-user, making them hostile architecture. It'll also potentially send increased traffic (and increased business) into the EU, or out of the US into less traceable regions, and get the determined end-user interested in the dark net, because watching a cat video without ads now requires the same savvy as getting access to CSAM, active revolutionary news and restricted chemistry configurations.

What will be more interesting to me are the consequences I haven't imagined. To quote a favorite princess, The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

Anyway, the go ahead and downvote me line is creepy, and brushes against poisoning the well I don't downvote dissenting opinions, (and can't, anyway from my Lemmy instance).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using these apps for years, when YT does their crap the community gets it fixed and rolled out within a few days (worst has been two weeks).

Lots of thankless devs and contributors dedicated to preventing YouTube from screwing us over!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

client validation will kill these forever

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, but there will be New Solutions. Or no YT for me at least. I am not willing to watch a single stupid add. Not one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's what Youtube is trying. Either pay or at least stop using it, so you don't cost them money.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

there will be New Solutions.

you're an overflowing toilet of optimism