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The attraction of goth gf is just that it’s the only subculture archetype where it’s acceptable to be sexy and not thin like a rail spike. Hence, big tiddy goth gf.
You can be thicc in any subculture. Curvy women were never not attractive. What’s not attractive (nor healthy), even for supposed goth gfs, is being really fat.
I don’t usually get this much misogyny with my morning coffee
You don't like it, don't read it 🤷.
Please don't make sweeping generalizations about whether or not women are "of use in the household" ever again, thanks.
Do you think stereotyping is okay just because someone else does it? Nevermind the misogynistic implications of basing a woman's value on her usefulness "in the household."
Wow dude.
This is some 1950s shit right there.
That is my experience and I did point that out on a number of times in my post. Your experience may differ from mine.
Plus, I don't live in the US, so things may be different here than what they are over there. Don't assume that just because I'm an English speaker that I'm automatically from the US.
The problem is not your experience, it’s your opinion. It’s highly, highly misogynistic.
I’m not sure why you hastily point out you are not American like it’s some sort of excuse. Neither am I, but I’m also not a huge chauvinist piece of shit.
Because most just assume that I live in the US and start posting things that are US specific.
My point was, we come from a different background and different life experiences. I laid out my experience and piointed out, on a number of times, that experiences may differ and that this is just my own personal opinion and experience. You don't like it, don't read it 🤷.
Like what? I’m really curious. Because I’m pretty fucking far from the US, both physically and culturally.
That’s a lot of words to avoid copping to posting incel crap. You have women where you live right? Learn to do better.
Not American here either, and wow, do you miss every mark.
That may be your POV, but I think we can agree that it might not be everyone's.
It seems like you're the odd one out here.
Stop listening to Andrew taint or wherever you got your info.
That first paragraph was a warning that you hold some bad ideas.
The first sentence of the second paragraph show that everything you say can be dismissed without further examination.
Hey, that is my experience, and I did point out that it might not be true for everyone, on a number of times.
Lol. You sound like an incel.
OK, your take on things I guess 🤷.
No man, you say incel stuff. That makes you at least incel adjacent.
No. It's your shitty perspective on your experiences.
The stereotypes maybe not being true isn't the issue. It's the blatant objectification and the foundation of sexism your comment is built on that's the issue.
Women are not objects or "just for show". They are people.
Women are not household slaves to clean up after you. They are not objects. Their worth is not dependent on how they cook or clean. Maybe you can be learn to be useful in the household.
Again, not objects. Not sex objects, not trophies for your viewing pleasure, not cleaning robots. And saying "doesn't mean it's true for all" doesn't make your sweeping generalization not demeaning or objectification. Anyone can be a good partner. If you keep having bad experiences with large groups of women, guess what... you're the common denominator.
Another generalization -_- the same people that say this kinda thing then unironically spend 12 hours playing video games or throw a tantrum when their sports team loses. It's a hobby for some people. And for others, they're told they're not worth anything unless they spend all their time looking perfect (like you just did in the last paragraph)
I will never understand how some people will say women are sex objects and then shame them when they have sex, all in the same breath. And if you're kinky or like sex, you're bad at marriage? That doesn't even make any logical sense.
Yeah, best place to hit on women is when they're grocery shopping lmao I don't know why, but this reminds me of parents telling their kids to put on a suit, walk into any company, shake the owner's hand, and you'll get a job.
Yeah, it's not like you describe. You have to work through that resentment you feel towards these women before you have a healthy relationship. Seriously, as a man who could have very easily become an incel, I'm telling you that the most important thing you can do is to think of women as people. Retrain your brain, reinforce the thought 'this woman is just like me, they are doing what they are doing for a reason. If I disagree with what they are doing, maybe I don't understand it. I'll try to understand it before criticizing it. And what this one woman is doing does not represent all women'
I was lucky enough to meet a woman who is a lot like the women you're criticizing. And she is an incredible wife and partner, and I have learned so much from her about what it means to be a woman. I hope one day you can find the same empathy and understanding.
You know nothing about me or my history/experience in life... yet, you're free to comment on it, but I'm not allowed 😒...
Just so we’re all clear, your little woman hating ass is NOT the victim here.
I do know something about your experience in life, you communicated that clearly, and continue to communicate that in all your replies.
You're free to comment your opinion, and I welcome you to comment on what you think my history/experience in life is like. But I will never stop defending women or really any other groups that are constantly harassed, demeaned, misrepresented, etc.
I do so hoping that you'll be open to learning something new, but if not then at the very least you'll know this is not a safe space for sexism, others have the chance to gain a new perspective or add to the discussion, and people in those groups know they are welcome here and valued as people.
I've met plenty of goth women who got married and were good wives. There's this weird stereotype that says that if you want to get married, you have to marry June Cleaver, and that's just stupid.
As I said, on a number of times, it's not written in stone. Hell, I know a lot of goth chicks that are good parents as well... but, there's the other 70% that are... well... they're not good partners or parrents.
Mind you, I don't live in the US so my experience may greatly differ from what tou guys have over there... as well as the standard of what a good partner and parent is.
Where do you get that 70% figure?
Doubt it
What did I just read? And I thought I grew in a country with a conservative society.
Engaging in stereotypes is an immature behaviour. The world isn't all black and white.
And what the heck is a wifey material? You're a grown man, right? I'm pretty sure you can cook your own food, mop your own floor, wash your own clothes and buy your inventory. Why do you need a woman for that?
Goth and bimbocore are just subcultures that deviate from the norm. Remove all of that, and what remains behind is a woman. It does not make them a bad mother, a bad cook, a bad home-keeper or a bad life-partner.
In Hinglish, we have this saying: "Pehle slutty-savitri, phir sati-savitri". This phrase essentially criticizes the hypocrisy of men who manipulate and exploit women for their own desires but then seek "pure" wives for marriage. This applies to you.