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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Get AutoCAD on Linux and I'm there buddy. Some of us need to work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True, the biggest sore points of Linux is Windows software support. This probably won't work for you because you seem to use AutoCAD for work, but for me I was able to just find alternatives to programs that were not available anymore when I switched to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For sure. I would love to ditch Autocad, but that would require me convincing my entire industry. I hate AutoCAD.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Industry Standard software is just a fancy way of saying "Monopoly"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but it's also not easy to pivot an entire workforce to a new software platform. I work in architecture and the industry on a whole runs on the smallest possible margins and is managed by boomers that can barely mark up a pdf.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

...that can barely mark up a pdf.

This seems to suggest they can download, locate, possibly extract, and then open one.

I'm genuinely awe struck. Yours are practically self-reliant compared to ours! :(

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's OK if it's FOSS. Imagine if Adobe Acrobat was FOSS and PDF was an open standard - it would have double the features and 10 times less suck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

PDFs have been an open standard since 2008.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Autodesk is the only entity who would be able to do that, due to the code being proprietary.

Not impossible to happen, though. Autodesk already has Maya available for Linux.

Obviously there are alternatives like FreeCAD, but alternatives aren't always an option.

Also, while AutoCAD might not work right now, WINE is getting better rapidly, and, while not guaranteed, it (along with Adobe programs) could theoretically work in the future without them needing to port the software. Of course, the companies porting the software would be the preferred solution here.

I'm personally not a fan of relying on proprietary technology for work, but most people are not in control of what their boss says they have to use, and the concept of proprietary "industry standards" continues to be a thing, partly due to lobbying and giving free copies to educators (Autodesk. Adobe, Apple, Google, and Microsoft are all very guilty of this). Unfortunately, I don't see that changing soon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hell forget about AutoCAD, what about word and EXCEL. now you and Linux dudebros will tell me there are alternatives on Linux like libre office and what not. To them I say this

  1. Make a document in libreoffice , try to save it as docx and see what says libreoffice, or make a doc in word and adjust formatting, try to open same doc in libre office and see what shit show it becomes
  2. Hand down no body can beat ms excel, on multiple platforms, the versality is not just complex formulas but functions like xlookup, index match , combined with VBA scripting with formulas that can low-key fight python , power tables are unparalleled, if you can replicate these without A SINGLE COMMAND line input for dumb users like us That would the win.
[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago
  1. Blame Microsoft for not conforming to their own standard. There's a reason the EU uses ODF instead of the mess that is OOXML. Different versions of MS Office aren't even fully compatible with each other. Also nowadays, you can use Office 365 in a web browser. For desktop, there is LibreOffice and OnlyOffice, which have okay compatibility. MS Office can also open ODF files, as is legally mandated by the EU, since it would be considered anticompetative if they didn't.

  2. I don't use those functions of Excel, so I can't comment. Also to be clear, are you asking if you can program without a Terminal? I'm not even sure what the question is. VBA is a proprietary Microsoft-specific scripting language, so of course there won't be native support for that in non-Windows OSs, although there might be a reverse engineering effort I'm not familiar with.

Blaming Linux for a problem that Microsoft caused and won't solve due to anticompetative practices is just dumb. Microsoft basically invented the concept of Embrace, Extend, extinguish, and Office is a prime example of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious what their reason for porting Maya was? That's really interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Likely because of the use of Linux (and historically UNIX with SGI workstations) in Hollywood for CG artists.