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Team hopes findings will help improve equine welfare after showing cognitive abilities include being ‘goal-directed’

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Everything is goal directed right up to the...

REEEEEEEEEE! HOLY FUCK WHAT WAS THAT LITTLE NOISE OR MOVEMENT? RUNAWAY! RUNAWAY! RUNAWAY!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You fool! You absolute buffoon! That horse has been twelve steps ahead of you the entire time! The freakout was staged and part of its master plan!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Goddamit!

Tricksy horsesses!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The master plan being to kick you in the balls

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

To be fair, that describes me having a panic attack when my plans fall apart.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they are goal directed they are more sapient than I am.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I was just thinking something similar. Perhaps envy.

Stupid horses knowing what they want and working towards it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

but, famously, they never proceed directly towards their goal. they always take one step to the side after two steps forward.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Of course they can? They're animals? They have brains? They need to think strategically in order to survive attacks by predators in the wild???

Do people really think that horses are just here to get humans around faster and that there's nothing going on in there?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Anthrocentrism go vrooom

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Humans love to seperate ourselves from the animal kingdom. We minimize them and pretend they are not capable of anything. We convince ourselves that no one else is even remotely close so we can attempt to justify our often horrific treatment of non-human animals

(Or at least some subset of the population anyway)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They need to think strategically in order to survive attacks by predators in the wild???

Do they really? I think most prey animals default to predator = run, which seems sufficient in most situations

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's all well and good until there evolve predators that have complex brains and can think about how best to approach you such that you don't know they're there

If you think just running away from predators you see and otherwise putting absolutely no thought into the existence of predators is sufficient you would not last long in the wild lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

and otherwise putting absolutely no thought into the existence of predators

That's absolutely not what I said and that's also not what "Thinking ahead and planning strategically" entails

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It's mind boggling how much people (especially Christians and very especially Amish) look at animals as lowly, base creatures with no sense of anything whatsoever. Like they're complete automatons.

[–] therealjcdenton 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How did you conduct this study? Play chess with a horse?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Horse did a en passant and the researcher got mad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It then farted while running away, kicking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Then, when it slowed down to a pace, it ate a chick

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So a horse could plan and act out a murder?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

No, but they could plan and act out a greater European conflict.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it looks like somebody in this story doesn't understand the difference between strategy and tactics, which definitely seems like quite an important distinction in this case

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why is that important? If you want to separate the two, the strategy is obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

thinking tactically is short term, thinking strategically is long-term, especially with the "plan ahead" in the title

nothing about the test described in the article implies that horses are capable of doing that though