this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2023
186 points (94.3% liked)

Technology

58012 readers
3355 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Angry Call of Duty Fans Are Review-Bombing the Wrong Modern Warfare 3::Poor Modern Warfare 3. No, not the new one. The original one, from 2011. It’s getting review-bombed by angry Call of Duty fans who seem a bit confused about which Call of Duty is which.

all 34 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 103 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The title seems to be poking at fans, but the repeated name was always bound to lead to confusion. Activision is out of ideas.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not just Activision. It's all of AAA gaming. If you want something new go to AA or indie games.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hollywood too. Everything is a sequel or reboot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Sad, but true,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ehhh well, I've kinda regained a bit oh hope after starting Alan Wake II, but yeah the big three (EA, Activison, Ubisoft) are hilariously bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Alan Wake is pretty much the definition of a modern AA game, though, so that just plays into what he's saying.

While Alan Wake 2 is super well executed, its development costs is dwarfed by modern triple A games that cost at least 10 times more to develop.

(Alan Wake 2 reported budget 50-70 million euro, compared to games like Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Red Dead Redemption 2 or Cyberpunk 2077 which were all reported at ~500 million euro, while games like MW3 (2023) and GTA VI both have billion dollar+ budgets).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, had no idea the first one was made with such budget constraints... Though I am curious where you got the budget estimate for 2 as I haven't found anyhting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah no that was a typo, that budget is for Alan Wake 2 - its on the Alan Wake 2 wikipedia page, sourcing a Finnish newspaper at the time of writing this comment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Wake_2

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh, I see :) Thank you for clarifying.

It's really impressive what they've been able to achieve then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I don’t think it’s so much that they’re out of ideas but that they’re too scared to risk new ideas. These games are so expensive to make now so they squeeze out as much as they can with MTX and season passes to stuff their pockets as much as possible. The longer they can keep you playing, the more money they can make off of you with minimal additional effort. Wrapping up that plan with a nice widely-recognized Call of Duty logo makes them a lot of guaranteed upfront cash.

Doing the same thing for a new unknown property won’t have that guaranteed audience, will require a lot more marketing effort, and possibly years of underperforming results before it starts becoming worthwhile. And even then it’ll be impossible to catch up to the behemoth of the biggest shooter franchise in gaming history. So it just makes financial sense to keep remaking and rebooting the tried and true. Their CEOs and shareholders demand it and their audience (for now) is happy enough to keep it that way with their wallet votes.

tl;dr With development costs growing exponentially, publishers looking for the easiest path to the most profit, and gamers already primed to keep buying the next installment no matter what, sticking to old ideas is what makes the most sense. Goes for movies too.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 10 months ago

They are confused because they keep naming the game the same stupid ass shit. Just call it COD and the fucking year like sports games.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The new MW3 steam reviews are locked until its official release, as is always the case. People are venting where it is both possible and making some sense.

The author likely is aware of this and just likes to poke fun at angry CoD fans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Since it launches through Call of Duty HQ on Steam, I'm surprised there isn't more review bombing there

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this really not that obvious? Giving already used names like that is just bound to create confusion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're out of ideas, sad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't need ideas to count up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'd like you to meet Windows. And Office. And XBox. Microsoft doesn't understand counting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

And yet, it will be the most successful Call of Duty once again until people stop buying this shit every year.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really wonder about the marketing departments of these things. Why repeat names, if the names already have numbers anyway???

Need for Speed does the same shit. And even Doom (2016) is called the same as Doom (1993)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Because it confuses the customer into thinking its a remake, when really they’re just capitalizing on the nostalgia of the name to sell copies

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I stop caring about modern warfare about 5 years ago when it became apparent that they had even less artistic integrity than the FIFA games, so I haven't really been keeping track.

So what's this new game actually called is it literally just called Modern Warfare 3, again? Because if that's the case it's 100%, their fault.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

That tells me all I need to know about the cod fanbase

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, the original Call of Duty 3 wasn't that great. Serious step down from Call of Duty 2, cause Treyarch was garbage back then.

I still chuckle when I recall that the Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare credits saying, "This is the third installment, Infinity Ward shit!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right, but they're review bombing Modern Warfare 3, not CoD3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh, well then fuck those idiots. Storming through the stock exchange was awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Treyarch wasn’t garbage, they had very little time to make it, also having to contend with three new consoles

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

No, no, it's not possible that my college fanboy brain was limited in its understanding of the world. Unfathomable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It's OK, the original MW3 is in need of a review bombing, that was just a blatant mw2 with new maps...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I played COD in their latest deployment, I had fun and I was shocked at how the game pushed so much BS on others. One guy I played with said he dropped 1k on skins and weapons. In his defense, they are making it pay to win with some bundles. I never bought shit, just earned some skins and didn't care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please explain how the bundles of skins and stickers are lay to win?

I havent spent one penny other than the base (which i bought the week itblaunches) game for MWII and have never ran across anyone who has a play advantage over me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ah, ok. In Warzone.

I only play the regular multiplayer, and there's no advantage there just cosmetics.