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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've been following the work on COSMIC (though not super actively) and I keep on saying that I like what I'm seeing because, well, I do! The idea of a tiling DE is a very exciting one and COSMIC really has the potential to become a Major Linux DE.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I particularly like that, just like their current Gnome extension, it supports both tiling and floating, with a quick toggle between them.

This'll be a pretty interesting year for people interested in DEs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

As a regular i3 user, I was very satisfied on how tiling was implemented into the Pop shell of Gnome. After a few keybind change here and there it almost felt like home maneuvering the windows and workspaces. One minor complain is glitches happen when external monitor is connected/disconnected on the fly (laptop usecase), in which case windows are disoriented and thrown around at random unexpected places instead of staying at where they were. I'm blaming Gnome on that one however, since I'm assuming it is related on how Gnome handle multiple screens and Pop shell act on top of it, so I'm expecting it to be fixed in Cosmic DE

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm just happy there's a rust DE being written in slint. KDE is nice and all, but it's all C++. No way am I touching that trainwreck of a language again.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

COSMIC is being written in libcosmic, which is based on iced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Slint says it's working with System76?

A great start to the week - @pop_os_official will collaborate with us to offer Slint as an alternative toolkit for application development on Cosmic Desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The keyword is alternative. All first party applications are written natively with our libcosmic toolkit, which is based on iced-rs. We are using a fork of iced though because we needed to implement a custom runtime with the sctk (smithay client toolkit) for COSMIC applet development, but our desktop applications will use the original winit runtime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I’m a Pop user and like what they do with Gnome now. I can’t wait to see what it’s like when the desktop isn’t limited by the Gnome extension system.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

I've been following Cosmic and really looking forward to it. I love the idea of a Gnome-like desktop without Gnome-like design decisions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Incredibly excited to try it. I love the early support for Nix, I plan to run it as soon as a NixOS module becomes available!

Huge props to the design team here, the aesthetic looks amazing on all of the apps I've tried. They all feel consistent and look great.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Tldr: New desktop environment designed for PopOS (but usable elsewhere)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

[cosmic-randr] uses the wlr output configuration Wayland protocols.

Does this mean cosmic-randr should work on other compositors that support the wlr output configuration protocol (e.g. sway, hyprland, river, ...)? It's great to see cosmic adopting existing protocols, instead of compositor specific protocols (or worse, no external app support at all).

Also, it's great how portable Cosmic DE seems to be, as it's already mostly packaged on NixOS. On first look, cosmic-term seems to be a quick terminal so I might switch to it, as well as cosmic-files.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

If they support the wlr output configuration protocols, then yes it'll work fine. There are some more advanced features that we want that aren't supported by the protocol though, so we will likely develop some cosmic protocol extensions for those features.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't use GTK does it?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

No, we have been making our own platform toolkit (libcosmic), which is built upon iced-rs. We are using this both for our wayland compositor applets, and our desktop applications.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Beautiful, so there's a good chance for it to not be a hot mess! Looking forward to it. 😊

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I’m really excited to test the Alpha, it’s looking really good so far!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just curious, on a scale from cowsay to MS Word, how difficult would it be to port COSMIC to the BSDs, assuming wayland support?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As long as you have access to the latest version of Rust, porting would be somewhere near cowsay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nice! I know that OpenBSD people have been working on a wayland compatible thing which takes into account Linux-specific things (libinput?), but last I heard it's not ready. I have my hopes up though! Could be the year of desktop BSD if they port COSMIC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It would certainly be easier for them to port COSMIC because there are very few dependencies on shared C libraries. Cargo links all Rust libraries statically, so it's easier to maintain and update components. This will depend how open they are to accepting Cargo and Rust into their ecosystems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

OpenBSD -release seems to be at rust 1.72, but -current has 1.75.
https://openbsd.app/?search=rust&current=on

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I recognize this is an odd comment to make, but I'm glad to see this screenshot tool supports capturing a window in Wayland. My next question is, can the screenshot tool be invoked from the command-line or via a script?

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 9 months ago

Wow this is cool and now I know why there devices are so expensive. Glad to support a good cause.

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