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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Reductive. Neoliberalism protects and foments fascism as we ratchet a little further to the right each election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The reason why the rachet turns further to the right each election cycle is because non-conservatives in the US have an abysmal voter turnout.

Neoliberalism is the product of leftists deciding not to vote because there's no "good" option, and leftists will perpetuate this cycle by refusing to acknowledge incremental progress as a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (7 children)

If only there was a way to increase voter turnout, like giving voters what they want... nah, that'd make too much sense. The democrats are too smart to give people what they want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Democrats do that. They appeal to centrists because those are the people who turn out to vote.

Leftists don't get representation, the ratchet turns right. Funny how that works

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (16 children)

Or maybe the centrists turn out because they're the ones that democrats appeal to. Obama ran on a progressive campaign and won big in 2008, so it's clear that it works. The problem is that he then immediately turned around and instituted centrist policy as usual.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Same thing with Biden. Ran on $10,000 of student debt relief for everyone, improving the climate, and not being Trump. People figured they could push him left, that was the argument. Now he's been a lot better than I thought he would be admittedly. But still, the student debt relief has been extremely targeted, he made foreign electric cars more expensive, and he's materially supporting a genocide while yelling at the protests against it. If they can't push him left in 4 years, then the theory was proven wrong, candidates can't be pushed left, and it's right for leftists not to vote for them. Democrats don't feel they have to move left because leftists have no other choice about who to vote for, so I get the calculus on their parts, but it's becoming dangerous.

It also depends on how much supporting a current genocide is a red line for someone. That seems to be the biggest difference I see in these posts. Some people can't bring themselves to vote for someone who does that no matter what. Others seem to be more malleable and forgiving about it. I know which one I am, but honestly, no judgment on either. I waffle between them myself. I don't feel nearly as much pressure as others,though, because I don't live in a swing state, so my vote doesn't matter.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Neoliberalism exists for many reasons. But blaming leftists is strange. We would be a lot better off if voting was not so hard for black and brown people, for instance. We can at least agree on that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No one will vote for our shitty candidates.

Should we run better ones?

No blame the people for us not having a good candidate

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (64 children)

Even if we assume for the sake of the argument that your ridiculous assertion is true, "Let's do fascism faster" is exactly the kind of bootlicking take I would expect from a tankie.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Use normal words. You are trying intimidate people with confidence and you just end up not making any sort of point. If we vote the right people in and the right people do their job it isn't fascist. We aren't in a fascist regime. You are the only one being "reductive".

[–] AppleTea 5 points 6 months ago

The meme oversimplifies what is happening. Our politics has been drifting further to the right with each election and the people in power are fine with that, regardless of whatever party they're a part of.

there you go

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