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"Tankies" tend to use the term liberal in the classical sense, which lumps conservatives in with progressives.
That's somewhat confusing since a classical liberal and a modern social liberal are quite distinct things. Plus, even two hundred years ago liberals were distinct from conservatives.
I suppose to tankies, it's liberals all the way down.
If you believe in democratic socialism, to tankies, you're a liberal.
"You think China and Russia should be socialist democracies? Pfft, what a typical liberal."
And if you're a Social Democrat like me, they'll think I have a shrine to Milton Friedman.
Most self-aware freikorps supporter, if you're a social Democrat you're just announcing to everyone that you are going to be predisposed to trying to accommodate fascism abroad if it means you personally get healthcare and economic benefits.
Social democrats arent democratic socialist but go on
Could have fooled me, these are the same people cheering on the Democrats while they enabled this genocide in Gaza. They're oh so progressive and worried about minorities, unless you're from a designated enemy country In which case they're goose stepping with the rest of the Americans.
Thanks for the demonstration, of tankie ignorance of the difference between socdems and demsocs, of how everyone not a tankie is a liberal or a fascist; and, ironically, what 'critical support' is.
Making a distinction without a difference. You're also acting like there's some vast landscape of democratic and/or socialists out there, just waiting to spring into power. That might be true, (I doubt it) but if your position on the most important question: "Do we continue to feed innocent bystanders into the war machine" is something you all have in common you're gonna get painted with the same brush as the rest of the more national socialists.
I mean to a Tankie, a "liberal" is just someone who disagrees with them. And some apparently consider it a derogatory slur, from the way they say it.
It's really quite humorous.
It's intentionally confusing. It's a Russian psyop tactic that tankies have picked up.
I hear the tankies even got the "Liberal Democrats" in the UK to name their party that in order to confuse Americans, on orders from Vladimir Putin. Is there no end to his scheming?
Fuck off, tankie
Learn something about the world, liberal.
Regular-ass Socialists use liberal in the same way you're describing, as do Anarchists.
As far as I can tell the tankie definition of “liberal” is “anybody that doesn’t have Xi Jinoing’s cock so far down their throat that his balls are playing a bongo solo on their chin.”