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[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There are no records that any of the executives referred to in the post donated directly to Trump’s presidential campaigns.

Are there records that all of the executives referred to in the post donated to a PAC or a SuperPAC that funnels millions to trump?

No. There aren’t any PAC donation records because SCROTUS legalized dark money. Of course we could argue about it, OR just look at the editorial slants and take this obvious fact at face value. Or assume the opposite in the ironic attempt to fight misinformation.

In 2016 CBS Chairman Les Moonvees, before being removed for sexual harassment, said, “trump may not be good for America, but he’s great for CBS!” - and that was to a crowded room of employees and investors. Did he donate the maximum $2500 to trump as well? I say it’s a moot point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

OK, so what you're saying is that you know there's no evidence to back up your claims, but you're assuming they're true based on your opinion of these outlets editorial decisions, and you'd like your opinion to be treated as a fact. Did I get that right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, you did not get that right.

What I’m saying is, I’ll accept the fact-check that there is no record of them personally donating to the trump campaign directly, and that’s sufficient to remove the image.

HOWEVER, everyone needs to be very clear there are a myriad of ways the wealthy can “donate” to campaigns because of Citizens United, and that the media outlets in question have a long and verifiable history of not reporting damaging news or editorial slants against trump which in many ways is more valuable than $2500 in cash.

SUCH THAT the idea that these CEO’s are not “donating” to trump because they didn’t give the legally required name for a direct campaign donation is laughable. HA!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There aren’t any PAC donation records because SCROTUS legalized dark money. Of course we could argue about it, OR just look at the editorial slants and take this obvious fact at face value.

Maybe you should clarify what the, "obvious fact," was that we should take at face value. Because based on the context, it really sounds like you wanted us to accept your debunked infographic as fact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

It’s pretty clear. If not, I’m not sure what to say to clarify.

Media owners help trump. Much more than a personal cash donation would. Which is why, when the “debunking” states media owners don’t help (“donate to”) trump, it’s ironic.

By saying the infographic is “debunked”, the implication is that media owners are not supporting trump. And I say again - they could very well be giving millions, as Elmo Musk does, without being directly identified in an FEC filing. So, the “debunking” is itself “debunked” by simply pointing out political donations can be unknown.

To restate, so you can clip ‘n save:

  • all the corporate news owners listed in the now-deleted infographic support trump
  • voluntary support for trump could be considered “a donation” (of time, influence, other)
  • to say that the above has been “debunked” because these multi-millionaires didn’t give their name as an individual political donor is (a) technically true and (b) very much beside the point that the heads of all major corporate news media in America are supporting trump in some fashion if not in multiple ways including financial donations.

So, pop quiz hotshot: is the infographic “misleading”?