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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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lemmy.ml is terribly moderated - how and where do you settle this?

I'm not quite sure how I best encourage this discussion - so I'll ask this here. I am somewhat shocked, how /c/[email protected] is moderated. Large parts of the instance are in my view in tankie-territory like lemmygrad or hexbear, so much so that I find it borderline unaccaptable.

I question myself, how something like this could have consequences. Feddit has blocked both lemmygrad as well as Hexbear, lemmy.ml is several times larger and in many parts not problematic. Would that instance be blocked users would be unable to access a lot of content.

I ask myself, how do you settle this in the Fediverse, especially when it comes to larger instances. If the admins on feddit find the mods on lemmy.ml problematic, which avenues could they pursue to pressure them without defederating.

Other titles I thought about:

Feddit.de not beating the nazi instance allegations

Lemmy.ml welcome to the resistance

Also the incident that caused this very reasonable and very normal fedditor to get not mad at all

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (2 children)

shoutout to feddit.de for once again proving that g*rmans shouldn't exist

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago

as a german, i can confirm. most germams suck so bad arggggg

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (2 children)

True, unification under Prussia was a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

they were never intended to be anything other than an absolute mess somewhere in the middle of europe

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

the alternative was unification under austria, a similarly unhinged state/people...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Austrians at least have better cakes than their cousins in Germany

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

That would've been a improvement.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One condition of ending WW2 should have been the legal right to slap any German in the mouth if they set off a hitler-detector . Rallying the volk against the communist outsiders to defend another genocide? That's a slappin'. They get free speech like a dog that bites gets to walk with a muzzle until they prove they're safe again.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

Rallying the volk against the communist outsiders to defend another genocide?

More than a slappin' xi-gun-1 xi-gun-2

[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

The feddit.de thread on this is, as usual for that cursed instance, fucking gross, has a user named [email protected] who pulls off shit like calling Jews antisemites for being against zionism, misgenders a user in the process, then calls the user whiny when being called out for the transphobia, then doubles down on that in the most ridiculous, privileged, ignorant manner possible. Hardcore transphobic brainworms at play there, that human dog turd outright refuses to use they / them pronouns in any context.

I'm not gonna make a feddit account to bully this fascist piece of shit, but if anybody has one, please report this fuckhead for repeated transphobia.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah its an incredibly bad instance but most of it is just shitty bad and I just thought this was more funny bad because guy getting banned to then 4 hours later go and make a post about defeding is funny. As for the transphobia I wouldn't be surprised if the admins there will just hand wring about freedom of speech and shit like that.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

guy getting banned to then 4 hours later go and make a post about defeding

Many such cases, though usually it’s under an hour later.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

kitty-birthday-sad response time on the fediverse getting worse and worse, truly tis the end of everything.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Didn't know it's that bad there, given the content posted i had assumed they're at least radlibs. Granted, that doesn't mean much when both the antideutsche and anti-imperialist left in Germany have an entire wing of outspoken transphobes.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

I've posted some of their threads in the past and they are just not alright, one standout one was when Yemen imposed a blockade a ton of people fell over themselves to say how much disgusted they are because now the west will just have to blow up brown people, or when that UNHRW was happening and they just had to say that 'of course Hamas has completely undermined that organisation we shouldn't give them any money at all this all makes perfect sense' like there's a reason that AfD (the most fascist party) is polling at 20%+ and feddit.de is just proof of it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Im taking a break from feddit, a couple weeks ago my comment calling luxuslurch a fascist got deleted for being uncivil

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did he have other topics than zionism and transphobia back then? I've looked at his comment history, but couldn't stand more than a week of it, and hating Palestinians and regularly sprinkling transphobia on top is literally the only thing that loser has posted about.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

It used to be just zionism, seems he branched out. I also saw him making fatphobic comments.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] wtf

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Today is a good day to be a monolingual burger.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get a strong emphasis on fed from many feddit posts

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

fedposting

[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I find it borderline unaccaptable.

ah fuck the mods forgot to ask this guy if their moderation was acceptable to him

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I vote to remove this comment. All votes must be unanimous (no downvotes). All in favor?

See, moderation via democracy is not that hard. Worked for Elon.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (1 children)

German

banned for antisemitism

complains about tankies so I doubt he said something pro-Palestine

thonk

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He made some comments saying that Nazis partnered with Zionists is incredibly antisemitic.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

not mad We should do something about these tankie guys, I'm not saying this because I'm mad that they won't let me be a bigot btw.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tankies are taking away my Right To Free (hate) Speech Online! We should take away their right to speak too, only I am allowed to have opinions!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the whole of west germany should've been thrown in the gulag after the DDR took over, alas, we continue living in our doomed world that we have created kiryu-dame-da-ne

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Someone needs to do a socio-linguistic study on Internet German, because it's the most grating way of writing I can imagine. It sounds like someone talking to a bureaucrat, a police officer and their close friends all at the same time. It's a policy paper crossed with a teenager. "Should the instance be blocked, users would lose access to a great amount of content. And I'm just wondering to myself, how can you solve issues like that?" How can anyone, let alone a whole country, stand this style of text?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Redditor germans have terminal debatebro. They are unable to engage with anything at face value, to them everything is an abstract talking point.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

When your past and present is that fucked, you'd want to deal entirely in the abstract too.

(Takes one to know one ukkk )

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

I think it's the natural expression of anglophone debatebro culture in a language with a more clearly-defined formal register, but I only know a little German so idk

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I am confused as to why they are even bothered about this. Aren't there already instanxes like .world and lemm.ee which alongside being pretty big are cracker safe spaces as well? lemmy.ml has even stopped accepting registrations a while ago.