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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

next comes Taiwan, South Korea

Ok. Cool, good.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nooooo south korea must hold out against the evil wicked satanic north NOOOOO

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

thats why their president wants everyone to do 60 hour work weeks, so everyone can work extra hard for democracy!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

In South Korea you have the freedom to work 60 hours, but In North Korea, all jobs are banned except for dusting the Kim Jong-un portrait. If you are found doing anything else, you will be executed for 12 generations. yeonmi-park

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh shit. I'm going to go make accounts on lemm.ee when I want to do a LIB bit from now on. It really adds a layer of authenticity when pretending to be the worst person you can imagine.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

How could you do this to me angery

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I told them that what they called Western hegemony is different from the rules based order. They said the rules based order is Western hegemony. And I said I agreed. That is what I am saying. Real Western hegemony is a rules based order. And they said yes, that is what we are trying to get rid of. And I said no, but we don't even have that right now. We need more Western hegemony. And everyone at the same time was like "nooo" we are socialists, we are against Western hegemony. Socialists oppose Western hegemony. And I said but not social democrats. Social democrats are the socialists who support NATO.

And I saw someone accuse my post of strawmanning.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wow, is this some sort of Moscow-funded Russian disinformation bot farm instance? Russia is an existential threat to the US and we have to draw a line somewhere. This war is about democracy. A democratic Ukraine vs fascist Russia. If we don’t stop them in Ukraine, democracy is over.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US is an extistental threat to all life on earth, liberal

Edit: damnit, I fell for it

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Neera Tanden? you're back?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Step 1: Create a reverse Cuban missile crisis

Step 2: Sell weapons to nazis

Step 3: Take advantage of the chaos of war to use the IMF to loot the country

Step 4: ???

Step 5: Democracy

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

You could honestly argue that it was America putting nukes in Turkey, and should actually be called the Turkish missile crisis

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (12 children)

how has media so successfully gaslit people into believing that the ukraine was ever even successful at being a liberal democracy? i guess all that rampant corruption that was covered by liberal outlets suddenly stopped being a thing when the SMO started thonk

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Because they want and need to believe it so that it justifies their warmongering and bloodlust against Russia

This essay is mentioned too often but it's so good https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

Class analysis on imperialist propaganda and why Westerners believe it so easily

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Libs know exactly ONE thing about history - that Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler by letting him take the Sudetenland, and it didn’t stop him - and think it’s some universal truth that applies in every situation.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That exact analogy has been used by high ranking US officials to justify nearly every conflict since the WWII, including Korea, Vietnam, and the War on Terror.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

It's also not true at all, i.e not a fact. Chamberlain wanted to collaborate with Hitler, not appease him.

Of course this is only surprising to Liberals who can't imagine why the leader of the British Empire would be a fascist 🤔💭◻️

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we aren't constantly killing millions of people, we might fail to kill the next Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But also remember that killing Hitler would make you just as bad as Hitler, sweaty.

Killing poor people and destroying the ecosystem is fine tho

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Liberals know exactly one thing about history and it's not even true

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

it's so nice to be able to reduce the world to simple stories and metaphors

i know the soviet union sucked bceause i've read (a summary of) animal farm

i know violence is not the answer because i watched that one MLK car advert and idk ghandi or smth and also professor x is better than magneto

i know putin is evil because someone compared him to voldemort and also its probably because his mom didn't love him

blob-no-thoughts party-blob blob-no-thoughts party-blob blob-no-thoughts

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

etc etc etc fucking etc.

Suck. It. Bitches.

people who type like this deserve gulag

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The guy who banned opposition parties and suspended elections and installed by a coup is a defender of democracy?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Democracy is more of a vibe you know

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why invest in democracy when you can invest in democracy manifest?

democracy-manifest

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is domino theory. It doesn't look good on paper, and it has lead to incredible amounts of war and death and destruction in the real world, including WW1. Many also argued that domino theory would lead to a bunch of democracies in the middle east after a democratic utopia was created in Iraq. No real world application for domino theory has been found.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Real Domino's Theory has never been tried because the Noid always gets his due

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

If Ukraine isn't open to Western investors then maybe Taiwan won't be either. Then South Korea. Then Poland. How will my boss's boss make a steady 15% on his capital if that happens?

This is an investment in democracy.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

It's such a perfect line because it reveals their total neoliberalization, the entire monstrous, bloody affair of war is justified by a potential Return on Investment.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Libs are so desperate to have a cause. They want Biden to be the new FDR, they want a new arsenal for democracy, they want Putin to be Hitler, and so on. It's all hollow.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This amazes me

It's funny that

It's hilarious that

I really like it that

starting a sentence like that hides the reactionary rage! sus-soviet

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democracy is when you expand NATO to encircle former soviet nations, and basically tell them outright "if you don't join us, willingly, and allow your economies to get privatized, deregulated, and hollowed out by foreign direct investment and IMF loan debt, you're gonna get balkanized" and then proceed to use one of the most traumatized and nations in Europe (Ukraine) as a staging ground for the CIA to send millions of dollars to reactionary militias so they can start a civil war by burning a bunch of separatists in a union hall to death, and then proceed to pit former soviet nations against each other in a completely avoidable and unnecessary war... and the more you do all that, the more democratic it is.

something something international rules based world order

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is tankie Russian propaganda. NATO doesn't just target ex Soviet Countries, it targets the whole world.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He forgot the clap emojis?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Calling war, death, and killing an investment is pure financebro brain. And a lot of reddit-logo financebros are thirsty for (vicariously experienced) bloodshed. hypersus

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s funny, they believe anyone who disagrees with them to be some sort of paid operative, but we believe anyone who disagrees as an uninformed numbskull

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even in their wildest fantasies liberals see themselves as morons being outsmarted by Chinese teenagers

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they care so much about Ukraine, Poland and South Korea, that's so nice.

Maybe they could help Mexicans and Native Americans as practice.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

What amazes me is still the complete disconnect. I literally want someone like this to go talk to some homeless person, or someone that just lost their child to a psycho with a gun or even the average person in your average [insert bullshit retail job here] clearly struggling to pay rent or whatever that the 50 billion or something in Ukraine is a fucking investment in democracy.

Motherfucker invest into something tangible at least once for starters, like I am pretty sure your average human being next to you(assuming you're actualy real and actualy spends time outside not some NAFO loser in a basement LARPing as some "democracy holy warrior" or something) could give you a list and I'm sure 99% of the time it wont start with some piece of shit missile worth 50k a pop to some random Ukrainian teenager in a trench somewhere or 50 million per plane that can't even fly etc.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

"Democracy" Jesus fucking christ.

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