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Xi straight-up told Biden that China is going to take over Taiwan: report
(www.businessinsider.com)
That's what Xi said.
this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2023
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… try… they’re going to try to take over Taiwan.
No, they would very thoroughly lose. China's in no condition to take on the US, let alone decouple its economy from the global community.
"The chinese leader Biden"?
He's playing both sides, so he comes out on top.
I let kbin auto-fill the post contents/title, surprised it edited it like so?
The "Democratic" Party is owned by China, Republicans of course by Russia? 🤔
So, One China Policy still stands. Breaking news, status quo?
I wish Biden had the balls to tell him to his face: "no you won't".
I'm glad he didn't. Authoritarians are not known for their sense of humor. There was that one time he told Putin "I don't think you have a soul" to his face. The reply was basically "we understand each other".
Then there was the time Obama roasted Trump at a dinner, and it made him so bitchmad that he ran for president.
Maybe zingers should stay out of politics.
Did Obama inadvertently create this Trump nightmare we are in?
It's conjecture
"Oh come on Jack."
If he did that there's a good chance of a conflict that leads to war without international support. Basically everyone who doesn't want to give up relations (cheap trade) with China has an opening to blame the US for the outbreak of war (even while condemning the invasion itself) to stay on China's good side. China would then likely attempt to use the situation to further erode the USD as the world reserve currency - which is really the biggest weapon they can wield against us.
Right now Taiwan is Kuwait in 1990. If China invades we can claim moral high ground and move in as an international coalition. Until then we can just make sure our allies agree with our stance. Publicly if possible.
Edit: Though Biden could and should encourage some of our Generals to issue "No Xi won't" memos. They can get away with it on the international stage.
China has long had a unification plan. It's not really anything new. There's just been a huge political football made out of it for decades. And of course that led to stupidly huge over investment in their economy by the rest of the globe as a way to encourage China to back off. Xi doesn't see the value in the status quo. It'd be like California seceding, then making tons of money while the rest of the US went fascist and built military power. Same ending.
Sounds like a final warning to me
oh no
anyway
Has anyone read the founding documents of the PRC from 1949 1949? China's policy has always been "we will unify with Taiwan, by military means if necessary." It's like saying "God Save The Queen" or "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." There's a fundamental gap between what's written officially as a matter of "this is what I believe" and what's implemented in policy.
If it didn't warrant a hostile reaction a decade ago, it doesn't warrant one today. China isn't any closer to military action against Taiwan today than they were a decade ago. The First, Second, and Third Taiwan Strait Crises showed that the status quo would be basically impossible to flip militarily without millions of lives lost. It's much easier to just expand trade, expand travel, expand cultural interchange, and expand immigration.
Pretty sure the founding documents are more like… the constitution, not some super creepy thing that only school kids recite. A thing that wasn’t even a thing until a civil war era union officer came up with it.
There's so much stuff coming out about China gearing towards Taiwan and its pretty scary. Either we let dictatorship shithole take a democratic militarized country by force or China will be put to Russian level shame and basically never recover. That's some real ww3 stuff. I hope Europe gets their shit together until that time comes.
America can't afford to lose Taiwan, they make too many semi conductors.
From my understanding they are one of a very few handful of places that can make the chips that are being used in training the current AI. Taiwan is one of the main ones.
Afaik the semiconductor argument is a bit outdated. It would be very expensive to switch production out of Taiwan but you know what would be more expensive? Hot conflict with China which would be unavoidable if they invade Taiwan.
The economic damage would be brutal to the point where it's actually the biggest deterant and that's why we should trade more with China imo.
At least he’s honest