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After the ban of the c/christians community for having a rule against LGBTQ+ content. I wonder where is the actual line of what is allowed and what is not on this instance. (https://lemmy.world/post/1762563)

There are plenty of instances allowing hate speech against religious people. Looking through them I can see how they can be pretty offensive for someone who was brought up religious.

For example [email protected].

From their description

No Pro-Religious or Anti-Atheist Content.

Some of the content:

To clarify, I do not feel offended, as I am in no capacity religious and I am an atheist also. I also do not ask for the removal of that community as I don't believe neither of the two should be removed.

But going through the content on atheistmemes the content there is far worse and more offending than it was on c/christians. While on c/christians only the rules where marginally breaking the rules, while there were no content that was in violation. This community in my opinion does both.

Allowing anti religion community while banning the pro religion one is creating a real deficit of different opinions here.

What is your opinion? Do you think that one should be allowed while the other not and why?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (9 children)

One thing to note is that the posts you've linked criticize or make fun of religious beliefs, but they don't call for violence, discrimination, or other injustice against religious people.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If that was the case I would agree with you. But it's not what they were banned for, they were banned for not allowing LGBTQ+ content on their community.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Your response doesn't make sense to me. I'm referring to the four posts you linked on the atheistmemes forum. None of them express "hate speech" in the sense of calling for anyone to be treated hatefully, excluded from society, etc. They all express mockery or criticism of religious beliefs.

While this may be disliked by religious people, it's not the same as (e.g.) calling for them to be discriminated against as individuals, driven out of society, etc. which are all commonplace anti-LGBTQ+ remarks from American, Russian, or African right-wingers.

"Hate speech" does not mean "speech that I hate".

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