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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Because it's a realistic solution a country can be in favour of. It doesn't matter how much we'd love for the Zionist entity to stop existing, we must not commit ultra-leftism mistakes and expect that a country tries to accomplish an objective that cannot be met.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (11 children)

The Zionist entity cannot continue to exist if Palestine is to prosper or even survive, the two-state solution is untenable at this point to many marxist Palestinians and marks an error in China's stated foreign policy in so far in that it allows the settler colonial state to continue existing. Legit the population needs a military defeat and reeducation, a two state solution would only continue the oppression unless it also took the form of a massive reducation campaign of "israelis" but even then you have an apartheid ethnostate that would require such major reconstruction I don't see any good reason to not expect the just and true end of this conflict as a liberated palestine and the fascist force of zionism defeated.

Just want to make sure we aren't considering Rashida Tlaib ultra-left for recognizing as many Palestinians do the two state solution as a normalization tactic and not a material end of the conflict in anyway.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Literally Hamas itself supports (as its professed position) a two state solution

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And the PFLP promotes a one-state solution? I'm arguing against ideologically supporting a two state solution, even if the professed position of Hamas may have a strategical purpose. There's no material basis for assuming any agreement between the two would lead to the fascist settler colonial state to not be, well, what it is and has always been. The struggle will continue until from the river to the sea Palestine is free.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think the main idea is that the colonial state is going to wither away on its own because zionists are already leaving due to how unsafe it is for them to be there, and by the time a two state solution would be implemented, this will have already reached a point where those people will not return and anyone like them who remains will want to leave even more because they have had their colonial project taken away. This will lead to an inevitable one state for Palestine because all the euros will flee and Palestine will have a majority and keep gaining power in the area, while the colony is fully weakened, loses a lot of population, and by then maybe even a lot of external funding.

China having this position makes sense because they are trying to be taken seriously as a mediator and the two state solution is the closest thing to a good deal for Palestinians that is actually being considered at the moment, but the average communist position should absolutely be an end to the zionist state entirely. If China adopted a one state policy in favor of Palestine, they wouldn't be included in any serious negotiating because that is obviously not something one of the parties in the negotiation wants to accept at the moment.

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