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Well, yeah. People are acting like language models are full fledged AI instead of just a parrot repeating stuff said online.
Whenever any advance is made in AI, AI critics redefine AI so its not achieved yet according to their definition. Deep Blue Chess was an AI, an artificial intelligence. If you mean human or beyond level general intelligence, you're probably talking about AGI or ASI (general or super intelligence, respectively).
And the second comment about LLMs being parrots arises from a misunderstanding of how LLMs work. The early chatbots were actual parrots, saying prewritten sentences that they had either been preprogrammed with or got from their users. LLMs work differently, statistically predicting the next token (roughly equivalent to a word) based on all those that came before it, and parameters finetuned during training. Their temperature can be changed to give more or less predictable output, and as such, they have the potential for actually original output, unlike their parrot predecessors.
That stems from the fact that AI is an ill-defined term that has no actual meaning. Before Google maps became popular, any route finding algorithm utilizing A* was considered "AI".
Bullshit. These people know exactly how LLMs work.
LLMs reproduce the form of language without any meaning being transmitted. That's called parroting.
Even if (and that's a big if) an AGI is going to be achieved at some point, there will be people calling it parroting by that definition. That's the Chinese room argument.
You're moving the goalposts.
Me? How can I move goalposts in a single sentence? We've had no previous conversation... And I'm not agreeing with the previous poster either..
By entering the discussion, you also engaged in the previops context. The discussion uas about LLMs being parrots.
And the argument was if there's meaning behind what they generate. That argument applies to AGIs too. It's a deeply debated philosophical question. What is meaning? Is our own thought pattern deterministic, and if it is, how do we know there's any meaning behind our own actions?
The burden of proof lies on the people making the claims about intelligence. "AI" pundits have supplied nothing but marketing-hype.