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There are some good videos by notjustbikes on this topic, iirc the main problem is that big streets make people want to drive more which makes everything more crowded
Ah, bikes. Driving is a necessity. I'm not going to commute 30 miles to work on a bike, and I'm not going to haul a pallet of drywall on a bicycle.
Off-road bikes are great, and they're good machines for exercise. Bicycles should not be allowed on public roads. They're a hazard.
If you had access to good public transport you could take a train for those 30 miles and relax, work or read instead of wasting time being focused on traffic. But if there's too much supply of roads built for the purpose of everyone driving their car everywhere, there won't be much demand to build something like that.
Biking and walking can then be for mid and short distances, respectively. But both will be dangerous unless there's proper infrastructure for that. And again, not happening until they stop the over supply of roads.
And for hauling the dry wall, yes, use a car. Imagine how much nicer traffic and parking will be if most commuters who aren't transporting big loads aren't in private vehicles.
The problem is that the infrastructure doesn't exist, and introducing it is cost-prohibitive for large parts of the US. I would love to be able to take a train from my small town to the nearest metro area 30 miles away and then take a tube to a block away from my destination--but that's just not going to happen in my lifetime, because the city can't afford to install a subway, and the auto lobby won the war against commuter rail before I was born.
Could it be better? Sure. Might it become better? Maybe, but probably not in my lifetime.
In the meantime, people are de facto dependent on cars. Destroying infrastructure necessary to support the reality of how people must, through no fault of their own, travel punishes the traveling public without addressing the actual problem.
If we're going to transition to better transit infrastructure, we first have to build the better infrastructure--and pay for it by ~~eliminating~~ unseating political opposition. Only then can we dismantle these kinds of monstrosities without disenfranchising the people who depend on them.
Yes absolutely! It's a systemic issue and there's no reason to blame the individuals who take cars because they're literally not provided an alternative. It's so fucked that you literally can't do anything in much of the US if you can't afford a car.
And of course it's absolutely critical to start providing an alternative before dismantling existing infrastructure, fucking people over even further. It doesn't have to start with a big rail line, even local buses and bike lanes and safe side walks within the small town will help a lot in reducing short car trips, such as to the shops or to school.
But for anything at all to happen, there will have to be enough problem in favour of traffic reform, and they'll have to be loud. The car lobby is a huge opponent. But in local politics, like on a town level, they don't have as much of a say. Maybe, just maybe, small change is possible
I know none of this will happen over night, but fingers crossed you'll get to experience a better future in your lifetime.
It's more the political opposition than the cost, rail used to be the de-facto long distance transport and it worked very well.
Rail still hauls a lot of freight, but in many areas people no longer enjoy the benefit of rail transport.
Freight rail is still alive in my area--and that means commuter rail could be. But like a lot of places, the public has been duped into voting against their own interests. I don't want to hijack the thread, but it's an issue that--if you care about it, you should be voting for Amtrak Joe. Public transportation needs to be part of the nation's climate agenda, and the Criminal Cheetoh wants to sacrifice us all on the altar of petrol.
Rail is a horrible solution for transporting people. If I could take a 15-minute train ride to work, it would suck in comparison to driving a car for 30 minutes or more. What if I get off work early? Now I'm waiting for the train. What if I want to go get groceries on my lunch break? Now I'm waiting for the train again. What if I'm working from home and something happens that requires me to go into the office? Looks like I'm going to be late, because I'm waiting for the train.
Modern society is built around motorized vehicles, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I love being able to get in my car and be anywhere I need to in a somewhat short period of time.
Ass-backwards take, car-centric society is unsustainable as the population grows.