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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Angry side of the pond here. Did the good guys win?

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

In addition to what Skua said, it's also worth pointing out that Reform, the main far-right party, led by the repulsive Nigel Farage (Brexiteer, friend of Trump, and so on), also made major gains, and came second in many constituencies. So although Labour has a majority now, things could get very ugly next time around if they don't do a good job.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

So although Labour has a majority now, things could get very ugly next time around if they don’t do a good job.

And that's the worry - people were highly-motivated to get the Tories out, so there was a lot of tactical voting, plus Reform split the right wing vote. Next time around, Labour are the incumbents and they'll have to convince the electorate to explicitly vote for them (and if Reform and the Tories merge, that could be a major problem). However, Starmer is a smart guy who has demonstrated that he is prepared to think tactically and play the long game. So I bet that, as well as the first 100 days, he'll have the start of a plan that aims to get them to the point that they can demonstrate improvements in everyone's lives by the next election. I suspect a Green New Deal may be key to that.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

if Reform and the Tories merge

is this in anyway likely? a pitiful slapfight seems more probable from an exterior perspective but "¯_(ツ)_/¯ "

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Reform is the 4th-largest party in Parliament. If the UK had a law requiring mouthpieces of foreign powers to register, that would affect Reform, which repeats Russian talking points verbatim. Better, such mouthpieces should be banned from office.

That should apply to those who repeat verbatim the positions of the Israeli governing party as well.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

6th largest, with only five seats out of the Commons' total 650 compared to the SNP's nine and Sinn Féin's seven. I suppose you could argue that they are 5th largest since SF don't take their seats. They did get the third-highest vote share though, just got absolutely fucked by FPTP. And hey, if anyone had to get fucked by FPTP, I'm glad it was them. But the number of votes they got is pretty alarming.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Very similar vote counts as ukip ten years ago in many places

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No they're not:

  • 1st Labour 412

  • 2nd Conservative 121

  • 3rd Liberal Democrats 72

  • 4th SNP 9

  • 5th Sinn Fein 7

  • 6th= Left-wing pro-Gaza Labour defectors (not a party as such but they are pretty well aligned) 5

  • 6th= DUP 5

  • 6th= Reform 5

  • 9th= Greens 4

  • 9th= Plaid Cymru 4

  • 11th SDLP 2

  • 12th= Alliance 1

  • 12th= UUP 1

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