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[–] [email protected] 197 points 3 months ago (56 children)

Such a creepy thing, getting children to chant in devotion to a state flag in schools.

It's the sort of thing they probably do in places like NK, or the Third Reich, you don't expect it to come from a supposedly modern, non imperialist nationalistic nation, ya know? :-(

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago (18 children)

I'm from the UK, my wife is from Singapore, and our son was born in the US. I really don't think it's appropriate to force him to pledge allegiance to the US, because he has strong ties to other countries. It feels like brainwashing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I don't think they can force you. There was even a legal case I think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

When I was in school the pledge was always preceded by the statement "we live in a nation of freedom, participation in the pledge of voluntary. Those who wish to participate please stand, other may remain seated and quiet"

I remember when it first dawned on me how creepy the pledge is I began to sit and one teacher was like "what are you doing? You have to stand up!" so I explained that it seems creepy, and quoted the statement they always precede the pledge by and the teacher replied "oh I never thought about that" and left me alone from then on on the subject

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