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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I'm surprised by some of the comments here. So much hatred for the teenagers but very little reflection on the responsibility of us as adults to create a world which is safe and understandable for young people. The real story here is not about the actions of the boys, it is about the actions of the people operating the websites they used, the big tech companies who created the tools and the governments (which we adults vote for) failing to properly regulate any of this. Generative AI is a disaster for young people and it was adults who created and unleashed it on them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Would the impact have been any different if they had used photoshop?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when could someone do this in Photoshop with a couple of clicks and zero training, for free and on any device? Since when has Adobe specifically marketed Photoshop as a tool for creating sexually explicit images?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when could someone do this ... with a couple of clicks and zero training, for free and on any device?

You know, somebody probably said the exact same thing about Photoshop when it first came out? Back when cutting up photos and pasting them together was a thing. Then again, somebody probably said the same thing about the advent of photography too, during the days of woodcuts and oil paintings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when has Adobe specifically marketed Photoshop as a tool for creating sexually explicit images?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck knows. It's not like I made any such claim, you just decided to put up a strawman argument.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is it a "strawman" when it relates specifically to the topic being discussed? A simple web search can bring up countless examples of generative AI tools that are designed to "undress" or "nudify" women. You seem to believe there is zero difference between using one of these sites and using Photoshop, so I am asking when Adobe marketed Photoshop as an undressing tool. The ease of use and access is the key difference here that you are trying to avoid acknowledging.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My question was very simple and limited in scope:

Would the impact have been any different if they had used photoshop?

I did not make any sweeping comments, and I would appreciate if you stopped trying to claim things on my behalf.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They didn't use Photoshop, they used generative AI. Maybe you should spend a little less time trying to save face and a little more time thinking about why that might have been.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right. I see there's no logical discussion to be had here. Have a good day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I deal with this a lot and it's funny to see it happen to someone else and respond in a similar way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That tends to happen when you make thoughtless comparisons, get called out then cry "s-s-s-strawman!!!!" instead of engaging with the relevant issue(s).

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