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Turning tipped positions into non-tipped positions will push down wages for those formerly tipped positions.
At least when prices went up, servers got a piece. Now restaurant owners will stagnate wages and pocket the increase.
I don't think anyone is saying we need to not allow tipping, just stop the stupid idea that restaurants can pay less just because an employee is tipped. They shouldn't be reliant on the good will of people or the social pressure to tip, that should just be an extra.
I mean, I'm saying that.
To me I've never understood why sit-down restaurants should be looked at any differently to any other business. Why can't the actual price just be listed on the menu?
Like, if we've collectively decided that the actual price is 20% higher than what is listed, then let's just treat this like every other profession and raise prices by 20%.
Why are people taking orders and carrying food special? Other customer-facing positions generally don't get tips. Chefs (who make the food!) generally don't get tips.
Just pay the waitstaff a fair wage and quit the tipping!
It's not 1995 anymore. Most restaurants require chefs to be tipped out.
Its only the really shitty ones that dont.
From my limited experience working in restaurants, the chefs also get paid at least minimum wage if not more
Of course they do, it's the law. It's crazy to me that servers are (seemingly randomly) excluded from this and have to rely on tips.
In most major cities youd be hard pressed to find even an 'ok' position that is paying minumum wage. Most are making 20-25+tips.
Edit: the dishwasher at my restaurant makes 72k. Thats not a joke.
I've worked in a number of places as a chef (from low to high end) and that was never the case anywhere I worked. To be fair, it's been almost a decade though, so maybe I'm out of date.
Fwiw, the industry has changed. Chefs are paid on par with foh nowadays.
There is a good chance local markets differ here too.
Not wrong. The local markets i have experience with are the most populated locations in the United States. Portland, chicago, New york, miami, seattle, la, sf, atlanta.
I would imagine living in hondo, tx sucks ass but that's not because of tipping.