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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

To any lib who comes here to whine about the profit incentive: Humans DO NOT need it to improve material conditions. However, even if they did (under capitalism), the transition from capitalism to communism will take many generations. By then, we'll be living in a post-scarcity world where little to no labor is needed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: There will be much more work to be done in socialism and communism than in capitalism, because our cultural standards will be much, much higher; a socialist world is one where everyone will have first-world problems. Just like living in the cramped and damp huts of the dark ages seems unthinkable today, it will be inconceivable to socialist society to live in an empty room painted eggshell. People tomorrow will not be content with derivative sequels and machine-made mince music, and they won't wear pants that can't survive the month. To support billions of people with luxury quality that has low environmental impact is a thing that can and will be made possible, but it requires much more work than supporting a deadbeat proletariat that is economically clinging on for dear life and teetering on the brink of ecological extinction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Labour will not disappear under socialism. However, one can expect the efficiency of said labour to increase to such a point (due to massive improvements in productive forces) where, compared to capitalist society, it won’t be needed as intensively.

Of course, this will only be reached during the final stages of socialism or maybe even in early communism.