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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

The amount of area needed for solar does not even begin to approach the amount of farm land. People generally aren’t building solar panels on farmland anyways? The largest instillations in the US are in the middle of the fucking desert.

Also get rid of as many parking lots as possible.

There is just so many layers of false and absurd narrative in this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This post was maybe referring to agrovoltaics?

The largest instillations in the US are in the middle of the fucking desert.

Still this is obviously worse right? We're taking untouched wilderness and turning it into a wasteland of blue silica. Deserts are pretty unique biomes with their own set of diverse animal and plant wildlife.

Farm land is already void of most biodiversity and usually used to grow corn or some other form of unnecessary cattle feed - yeah ideally both get rewilded - but it feels better to reuse an already existing bio wasteland instead of creating new ones..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of farmland goes to hay fields too, which isnt just for cattle and aren't devoid of biodiversity. For example, barn owls use hay fields to hunt hence why they tend to nest in and around barns(how they got their name). Many farmers encourage them to live and nest on their property.

Hay often gets sold locally to people who own horses, goats, chickens, alpacas etc. Small, local rural economies depend on this sort of thing. Plus apiaries are often set up next to hay fields to promote pollination for certain types of grass hays, which is then sold as local honey at farmers markets.

Not saying solar can't coexist with what I've said above because it absolutely can and I'd love to see more of it. Just this idea that farmland doesnt support wildlife isnt true. Deer, barn owls, rabbits, mice, snakes all use the hay fields before and after cutting. Plus the fields used for hay aren't good for much else. Too rocky, hilly, or nothing else will grow.

Source - I've lived in a rural farm town for most of my life and grew up playing in hay fields. Lots of critters live in there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do you really think there's more wildlife in managed hay fields compared to letting those fields rewild? Seems quite dubious

FYI I'm a reject modernity return to hunter gatherer shill so I think humans should aim to reduce the amount of cultivated land in general

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