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I don't understand this weird American obsession with flag. I was looking at some photos of Trump's rallies. Flags everywhere - on shirts, hats, glasses etc. And this bizarre cult of the flag - "it cannot touch the ground" etc.

At the end of the day the flag is just a piece of cloth. If you worship any flag or take offense to any flag, you need to get a life.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Warning: my takes on this are probably even more unpopular than the OP. I typically don't mention them to avoid whining, but since we're in a comm for unpopular opinions, might as well speak my mind.

A country flag is neither a symbol of your people, nor of the general population under the same government as you. It's the symbol of the government itself - an abstract entity, best seen as some sort of tool.

People who wave flags strongly remind me cows shaking their arses to show that they've been branded as property. "MOO! I'M PROUD OF BEING OWNED! MOO!"

Against the above, some might argue that their governments' flags used to represent some popular movement, or similar. Well, it is not your flag any more; co-opting symbols is bread-and-butter of exerting soft power over you.

And if you do feel the need of a flag for your identity... sorry to be blunt but you have millions of identities at your disposal; if the one that you pick is what subjects you, you probably need to touch some grass.

"But the president/king/minister said that..." - of course governments will tell you otherwise, it's convenient for them. But, most likely, not for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I get it. It's not really a true choice though. Like bring born in the United States makes it difficult to move and become a citizen elsewhere, where I could waive a different flag (of choice).

It's a simple as being born into it and being prideful of whatever it is you are. Typical pride involves surname, race/ethnicity, religion, state, country, brands of things... I mean.. It's whatever one is proud of having. Some things are by choice and others are by birth. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The difference between country and all those other "not a true choice" things that you listed is pointlessness.

A surname is still about your kin. Race is arguably also about kin*. Religion will probably dictate your behaviour, or at least principles. Brand is a damn silly identity, but I get that - it's still about things that you enjoy.

Country though? In larger countries this boils down to "land that you never saw, people whom you'll never interact". In smaller ones it boils down to "a fraction of the lands you saw, and people whom you interacted with". All because you pay taxes to the same government?

*I say "arguably" because race is still a damn silly identity, unless you use it to highlight oppression and gather other people to end said oppression. But past that I don't think that anyone should see themself as an Amerindian, a black person, a white person, but rather as simply "a person".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Brand is a damn silly identity, but I get that - it's still about things that you enjoy.

I completely agree. Especially when someone gets so upset about criticism of their preferred OS owner (Apple vs. Android fanatics).

I'll also add sports teams into the mix. Some people get so ravenous about their support for a certain team, or criticism of said team.

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