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Not a new revelation, but the article pulls from good sources and it's nice to see this myth repudiated in a mainstream outlet.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

This article references the existence of lots of alternatives for ending the war but doesn't identify any of them. Anyone know what other methods or paths specifically would have led to the war ending in just a few weeks and without an invasion of Japan, as mentioned in the article? Genuinely curious, not arguing the claim.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

That whole narrative smacks of racism and cowardice

"We had to kill 200k civilians or else we would have had to invade the mainland and risk the lives of our soldiers, who are expected to risk their lives. White lives matter. Anyway they were fanatical, the women would have hurled themselves off of cliffs, dashed their babies against rocks and even the children would have taken up bayonets. How many of our boys would have died? 200,000?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

What nation is going to prefer the death of its own citizens over the death of civilians of a country they are at war with? Did the Soviet Union treat Nazi Germany with that kind of grace?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Soldiers and civilians are the same, I am very smart

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What nation is going to prefer the death of its own citizens over the death of civilians of a country they are at war with?

How else to interpret that? Were you suggesting Japan at the end of WW2 posed a risk to US civilians?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

No. I said that a country is going to value the lives of its own people over the lives of others in making military decisions. This isn't just an American thing.

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