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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

A large foundation for the belief in critical periods for language are based on Genie, a feral child who was entirely unable to learn a spoken language despite significant efforts. Today, she can use some sign language but cannot speak.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)

So the answer is largely believed to be: No. You cannot learn a spoken language if you missed the critical period.

It's also literally impossible to test/study ethically, so nobody actually knows.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just from the overview of that wikipedia page, it's clear she has been subjected to a horrific amount of abuse and emotional turmoil, both as a child and later as an adult. It seems extremely dubious whether you can really draw any general conclusions from such an extreme case study.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How could a child not be exposed to any spoken language without that circumstance also being somewhat traumatic?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did you read the Wikipedia article? I grant that isolation is inherently traumatic, but by itself, it pales in comparison to what that person went through.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I grant that isolation is inherently traumatic

That was my point, I don't see how a traumatic experience during a child's formative years could have no effect on their ability to learn or socialize later in life. I'm not making a "nature" argument, I'm making a "lack of nurture during the most important years" argument.