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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Also applies to "I'd rather die than be disabled" in its many forms.

And I just posted this in another comment, but I think it's relevant here too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (15 children)

What's wrong with "I'd rather die than be disabled"? To me it looks a legitimate personal moral stance.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

To me it looks a legitimate personal moral stance.

Congratulations, you're an ableist.

Edit just to give anyone who might actually give a shit a clue: if you replace disabled with any other marginalised group and your point becomes glaringly bigoted, it's also bigoted when you aim it at disabled people. It's really not that fucking complicated.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Since you added an edit later on: no replacement makes that statement bigoted. If my own morale or ideas bring me to my own evaluation - that applies only to me - that life in a certain condition wouldn't be worth living, there is nothing bigoted (at least, inherently).

I wouldn't want to live so many lives that people live. Like an exploited worker in a poor country, a female in a very religious society etc. Ultimately this is a personal decision on your own life and body, nobody else should have a saying on what I want to do with my life at this fundamental level.

The problem (which becomes being ableist, or racist, or sexist) is when this perspectives becomes an ideology that affects society. You can easily support a society that - say - grants equal opportunities to men and women and at the same time think that you wouldn't want to live as a woman.

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