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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Thanks. I hate it.

I'm going to spend this thread agreeing with Rust fans, and I hate that the most. (I love you all, really, but you're fun to try to wind up.)

OOP sucks because Inheritance sucks. This person's brief non-shitty experience doesn't change that.

Languages built around OOP suck where they use inheritance instead of interfaces.

Inheritance is isn't always a terrible choice. But it is a terrible choice often enough that we need to warn the next generation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (9 children)

If we’re looking at it from a Rust angle anyway, I think there’s a second reason that OOP often becomes messy, but less so in Rust: Unlimited interior mutability. Rust’s borrow checker may be annoying at times, but it forces you to think about ownership and prevents you from stuffing statefulness where it shouldn’t be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, that's an issue in almost every imperative language and even some functional languages. Rust, C, and C++ are the only imperative languages I know of that make a serious effort to restrict mutability.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do C and C++ try to restrict mutability?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

const

They don't do it well, but an attempt was made.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I also love this. I don't why but gc languages feel so incomplete to me. I like to know where the data is that I have. In c/c++ I know if I am passing data or pointer, in rust I know if it's a reference or the data itself. Idk, allows me to think better

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