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Finnish President Alexander Stubb has congratulated his future US counterpart Donald Trump on his re-election.

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Prime Minister Petteri Orpo (NCP) commented on the election [in a press conference ...] "I have been saying for a long time that Europe must take a bigger role. We cannot count so much on US support. Of course, the United States has other interests," the PM said.

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In Orpo’s view, peace must be achieved in Ukraine, but not under any conditions.

"Peace must be attained on Ukraine's terms," he said. "We have our own experience from history that if the big ones agree over [others'] heads, it is not in the interest of a small or independent nation, and hopefully this will be kept clearly in mind when a peace agreement is possibly made."

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Former president Sauli Niinistö, who met with Trump multiple times, struck a cautious note in regard to the possible ramifications for Nato and Ukraine.

On Wednesday, Niinistö commented to Yle about Trump’s assertion that he will end the war in Ukraine quickly.

"I haven't seen a detailed plan on the matter, if there is one. Rather, that will have to be considered after we see what he is really going to do," Niinistö said.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I would bet, that one of the first things Trump does is end support for Ukraine. We have to give them what they need now, so they can take back what's theirs before the US support runs out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (14 children)

He says he wants to end the war. Ending support doesn't do that and I don't see how Russia winning would be beneficial to the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I bet leaving Ukraine without weapons or ammunition would end that war rather quickly

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This implies that U.S. stopping weapons deliveries would leave them without weapons and ammunation which is not the case. It would make things a lot harder for Ukraine and make them lose more soldiers and land but it wouldn't stop the war. They'd rather die than submit to Russia. Also, U.S. is not their only weapons supplier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Of course not, but still the largest. And I'm not sure if germany can increase its support enough to balance that. Especially with our own government falling apart currently

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