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Many might've seen the Australian ban of social media for <16 y.o with no idea of how to implement it. There have been mentions of "double blind age verification", but I can't find any information on it.

Out of curiosity, how would you implement this with privacy in mind if you really had to?

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[–] incogtino 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

A joke answer, but with the kernel of truth - IRL age verification often requires a trusted verifier (working under threat of substantial penalty) but often doesn't require that verifier to maintain any documentation on individual verification actions

https://chinwag.au/verification/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As in, you have to roll up to an "age verification bureau" and say "I'd like to sign up to $platform, please verify that I'm of legal age to use it and tell them so", then you buy a "token" that you can enter upon signing up? Am I understanding that correctly?

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[–] incogtino 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wasn't thinking in detail, just addressing an assumption I think a lot of age verification discussions include, which is that the verifier would have to be trusted to maintain some sort of account for you, retaining your data etc.

I have no idea what the legislation says, but I'd be a happier privacy-conscious user if the verification platforms were independent (i.e. not in any other data business) and regulated, with a requirement they don't retain my personal data at all (like the liquor store example)

So the verifier gathers data from you, matches it with a request from the platform, provides confirmation that some standard has been met, and deletes almost all personal information - I acknowledge that this may not rise to the double-blind standard of the original request

Edited to add:

  • you don't have to 'buy' a token, the platform needs to pay verifiers as a cost of business

  • some other comments are asking how you prevent the verifier knowing the platform - to my mind you don't, instead the verifier retains a request id record from the platform, but forgets entirely who you are

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