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IMHO XMPP / Jabber is the best Instant Messenger (IM) protocol (feddit.dk)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It is battle tested, standardized, widely used, have open source servers and apps, end-to-end encryption (OMEMO), self-hostable and are low on ressources and federated / decentralized.

I use it with family and friends. Conversations and blabber.im on android and Gajim on Linux. There's also apps for windows and Apple.

Curious if anyone here use it and why, why not?

EDIT: Doh. In these Lemmy times I forgot federated. Added.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

My colleagues and I had set up a nice self-hosted XMPP server which everyone could use to chat in-house without any of the traffic leaving our network. We had it end-to-end encrypted and it was quick and easy. Then management (with the support of a few employees who like hype) switched us to Slack. It wasn't private, all our confidential messages went out to the internet, the boss could technically read anything we wrote, and many people didn't like the UI. Once management got frustrated wit it they switched us to Microsoft Teams. After using that for a year, I miss Slack. Teams is a bloated buggy mess with a UI designed to confuse and no privacy, and it also has all the disadvantages of Slack.

A few of us have secretly switched to Matrix and Element. It's good. Don't tell management.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@floofloof I would love to move to Matrix/Element but don't know a single person who uses it, so it doesn't seem like it would much benefit me unfortunately. I do still have an account though.

@privsecfoss

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Install some bridges. I've managed to remove all those third party chat apps from my devices and just use Matrix to chat to everyone whether they're on Slack, Discord, WhatsApp, IRC, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can hyou point me on some good material to learn about them? I've been reading about those for years but never crossed a guide...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take a look at this page for someone explaining how they moved from using Discord directly to using it via Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, it's very useful, sadly it looks a bit like the stuff of nightmare prone to breaking at the worst possible moment...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's been rock solid for over three years for me.

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