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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wat? The first one. The idea of going into a crowded Cafe is uhhhhhhh. People directly next to you and babies blah blah blah

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

💯 Yeah, I get to sit in my own comfy chair, with ac, my own music or silence, without people coughing on me, with my doors locked if I feel like it.

That type of busyness in either picture is exceptional. If I get into a car to get somewhere, it's almost always easier AND FASTER to just stay in it.

Do I think it would be better if they were all electric? Yes.

Is coffee bad for the environment? At every step, yes.

Do I like well made espresso? Yes.

Do I want to go anywhere for a cup of coffee? No.

Do I have the equipment to make good espresso at home? No.

Do I think going without is the best form of being better for the environment? In many cases, yes.

Will I still go somewhere for a chance at a great cup of espresso? Maybe once every other month.

What is the goal of FuckCars and this sort of perspective? Seems like it should be sustainability and quality of life.

Do I think cars are the enemy? No.

Do I wish I didn't have to deal with them? Yes.

Are there any 100% sustainable, more efficient, better quality of life suggestions that are feasible out there? Not yet.

Do I think FuckCars is a whine? Generally, yes.

Do I think it's an important debate to keep open? One of the most important.

Why do I criticize it? Because it never addresses the complexity of the problem or produces any feasible solutions or steps to take. It's a cope with blanket implicit blame. We all want better.