this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2023
219 points (97.8% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

54609 readers
544 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I don't see the need to vilify Cloudflare. So far, they have shown nothing but respect towards net neutrality, fighting against bad internet practices (like Google), and even standing up to ISPs and governments to protect their users, whether they're pirates or not.

They have been around long enough (10+ years) to let you judge them and their services through their actions, not rumours.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (12 children)

They are a good company, but that's not the problem. The problem is the internet is increasingly got centralized behind them, to the point of blocking their IP addresses (or when they have an outage) broke a significant chunk of the internet. Also, once they control a significant chunk of internet, what's stopping them from turning shitty like google (which famously started with a "don't be evil" motto)? At that point it's probably too late to decentralize the internet again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Centralization is an issue, but it's not Cloudflare to blame, it's the ISPs and governing bodies. Consider this: who's the one who initiated the initial block in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Centralization is likely the unintended end result of the internet. Consider a mesh network where all the links have even throughput. Now suddenly one node has some content that goes viral. Everyone wants to access that data. Suddenly that node needs to support a link that’s much wider because everyone’s requests accumulate there.

Someone goes and upgrades that link. Well now they can serve many more other nodes so they start advertising to put others' viral information on the node with larger link.

load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)