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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (59 children)

China is under no obligation to dissuade the Euro-centric world from a conspiracy theory narrative

We have just had a world pandemic. Common sense states that we should be looking into that.

after a full century of humiliating China.

Humiliating China in what way?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (57 children)

Humiliating China in what way?

If this is a good faith question, I highly recommend looking into modern Chinese history, starting with the 1800s. Europe brought China to its knees. Massive EuroAmerican fortunes were amassed through getting 40% of Chinese people addicted to opium, Forbes among them. The Chinese attempt to protect their people by outlawing opium was met with orientalism by the merchants who convinced the British navy to attack China and force it to allow the drug trade. The Opium Wars is how Britain ended up occupying Hong Kong and how Europeans were immune to Chinese law in all the major port cities.

When the PLA joined with the KMT to fight off the Japanese, the KMT then turned on the PLA and massacred as many as they could. The PLA eventually won the hearts and minds of the Chinese people and through a people's war and through conversion of thousands of KMT soldiers to the PLA defeated the KMT who ran away to Taiwan. The British then stepped in and prevented the PLA from continuing to pursue the KMT because the British wanted the KMT to be their puppet regime. And that's how Taiwan got into the mess it's in.

The West spent a century dominating China, eventually even imposing tarrifs on behalf of China on goods that passsed through China, but all the tarrifs were collected by the Europeans! China finally stood up in 1949, but it has not finished pushing European influence out of its region. So the idea that the WHO should be trusted to be impartial when literally everything the West has done is weaponized against its enemies is laughable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (56 children)

I am not going to listen to arguments based on events from 200 years ago. My family were being starved in Ireland back then.

China was a closed nation for a very long time. Any developments in China are down to China themselves. Do you even know the term of the Cold War?

There were no friendly arrangements between the west and China until very recent. The hand of friendship has been extended due to the collapse of Russia and the west recognising the futility of being aggressive for the sake of being aggressive. China also opened it borders, something unthinkable before the USSR collapsed. Since the cooling of relations between the west and China, China has abused that hand of friendship in many areas. Is it any wonder that hostilities are building up again?

[–] st0v 12 points 1 year ago

China opened up long before the soviet union collapsed. that's just wrong.

like 20 years wrong. You really need to do some reading chief.

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