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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (28 children)

What really makes me angry is that media is full of some millionaires drowning in a rattle can steered with a 30$ Logitech controller while there are 100s of people drowning in the Mediterranean Sea every week because they are illegally pushed back by authorities and media is silent about it...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They are illegaly coming too. Also media is silent about this? It is the only thing they talk about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are forced out of their countries. I get your opinion if it is about young people just looking for work. This is also happening. But there are mothers and babies and kids among those people. They don't go onto a rubber boat for fun. I bet you wouldn't care about laws if the live of your family is in danger. And even if it is illegal, can you explain how it is ok to push them back into the water and let them drown? Mothers and their kids?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are forced out of their countries.

What prevents them from seeking safety in the first safe country? Egypt etc, there are no civil wars there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Usually, because they know a second language, but the first safe country they pass through doesn't use that language, or because they've got a relative living legally in a different country that they think can help them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this is like it is in the US, which I suspect it is, they often don't know it is illegal. They paid everything they had to a group that promised them legal status and a safe journey. It's gangs running these operations.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And by helping them we only help these pirates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not likely. The pirates probably aren't on the boat, only expendable mules. Once the victims are on the boat they have their cash.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The master of a ship at sea as the moral and legal obligation to assist a ship in distress, if they can. There's no skirting that obligation by assessing the legality of the ship's planned path.

But maybe we should also stop rescuing people in house fires, as they might be burglars?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not informed on this particular instance but 90% of illegal immigration to western countries happens because the US, UK, France, or etc, fucked up the migrants' origin country one way or another. A perfect example of this is the US: most immigrants are from places fucked up by either the US overthrowing any left-wing Latin American government, or by awful US drug policy. Most nations not only have a moral responsibility to migrants as fellow humans, but they are usually directly responsible for those migrants wanting to leave their homelands to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are forced out of their countries. I get your opinion if it is about young people just looking for work. This is also happening. But there are mothers and babies and kids among those people. They don't go onto a rubber boat for fun. I bet you wouldn't care about laws if the live of your family is in danger. And even if it is illegal, can you explain how it is ok to push them back into the water and let them drown? Mothers and their kids?

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