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A couple hours before I was on the edge of getting a Fairphone 5 but I read the specifications and didn't see 3.5 mm audio jack anywhere. So I thought to myself...why? The community has been requesting this for a couple years ago now so why not. They're already making money on the phone, they're really pushing for people to get their wireless headphones? Just add the headphone jack, shouldn't be too hard.

They said they're treating their workers fairly, sourcing from ethical sources, renewable claims, repairability claims, and supporting foss projects (they donated a fp4 to CalyxOS to support development). All of these are amazing, so adding a little headphone jack shouldn't be that hard in the grand scheme of all this.

*Add the headphone jack and I'll be happy to support and get a fp5.

https://calyxos.org/news/2022/02/25/device-support/

https://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone-5

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Wireless earphones/headphones are more expensive and sometimes inconvenient. People defending companies say "you can get a pair of wireless buds for like 20 dollars" you can, but how much are they going to last and how shitty will they feel and sound? Even when buying them for a high price, their batteries will wear out. The worst thing is adding this port doesn't affect you in the slightest if you don't use wired headphones, so couldn't you just shut the fuck up if that's the case?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wireless headphones aren't the only available option.. There are USB earplugs and there are adapters. The only argument you have is "but I can't charge my phone while listening to music"..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think there are even dongles that let you charge while listening to music.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes but I have audiophile headphones that I used to be able to use on on my phone without needing a dongle which I lose and need to replace everytime I plug the headphones into something else Can u name a solution for this that doesn't involve replacing dongles constantly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's useless to argue with this guy, he's just going around shouting that the audio jack is obsolete, doesn't even know what obsolete means and is just throwing a hissy fit.

He can't name a solution, it's just everyone's else problem that we want to use the better option.

[–] pm_me_some_serotonin 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing that saddens me as someone from a third world country when I see people with that attitude and supporting the corporations' decisions, is that I see how much we are fucked and we don't matter at all.

Any earphone option besides the ones with the jack are more expensive, even USB ones. Wireless phones are much more expensive, and the ones we can afford become defective so fast.

It's also sad to see people telling how the common stuff around me is obsolete. Well, I get it, we're the global waste from a capitalist view, but it still hurts to see it in action. (I wonder how people around here would react if they knew that microusb is still widely used around here and a lot of people don't even have type c cables)

In the end, companies will do anything they want and people will support them blindly. I just hope my current phone lasts for a good while, because not only I can't afford a new one, but, if I can't get one with an audio jack, I will simply have to listen to anything aloud for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can say that something is obsolete when a superior alternative is created, and is widely available.

E.g. you can say that cassettes are obsolete because cds exist, or that cds are obsolete because of streaming (arguably), but saying that one of the most widespread and reliable connectors is obsolete just because you think it's old is just an idiotic thing to say.

On one hand i welcome what fairphone and also nokia, motorola and others are doing, making replacement parts available to the general public, but still i think Fairphone are huge hypocrites as of right now because of their choice and lame justifications. I expect this crap from apple, not from the "bastions of repairability and sustainability"

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can u name a solution for this that doesn’t involve replacing dongles constantly

No, but I don't get why anybody owes you a solution.. We are talking about smartphones here, not professional audio devices.. Most people don't care about using professional studio headsets with their smartphone, so I don't understand why you expect smartphone manufactureres bending themselves over backwards just to satisfy a small minority of people like you when that would mean that 90% of people now have a plug that they never use..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing you never lived through the iPod/MP3 player era? You do not need a professional audio device to enjoy music. Most people would happily live by with a crappy $20 earbud.

You have to remember that not that long ago, every phone used to have a headphone jack built in. It wasn't until Apple created the problem of removing the headphone jack, and created the solution in the Airpods (which generated massive amounts of profit), that other manufacturers followed suit. It never was organic.

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