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GPU is half the price of a full build, is this still true? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Bought a 6700XT for 400USD last year.

But the platform update required means that I possibly only do a budget MoBo + CPU for 400

Then PSU, case, ram, cooler are all additional.

My previous CPU lasted 7 years, my Ryzen 2600 is 5 years now. Which means I can't play Remnant 2, Starfield or Lords of Fallen. Not the best optimised games, but a trend nonetheless.

Would future proof mean getting a top shelf Intel or the 7800x3D to last 7+ years? Or just go budget every 3 years?

Apologies if I don't make sense the current market is confusing along with inflation and random price increases

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My i7-4770 could do anything I threw at it. I replaced it 5 years ago with a 2700x and regret that decision ever since. The AM4 platform did not treat me well. I upgraded from a 2700x to 5900 to now a 5800x3d and all had stupid AGESA bullshit.

The AMD AM4 platform still is buggy after all this time. Why did I keep on upgrading the AM4 platform you ask? Sunk cost fallacy. I gathered it was something in the main board so I first upgraded from x470 to x570. The problems worsened. They got better when I bought the 5900 but still weird usb errors and erp (the sleep thing) issues. And let's not forget the ungraceful thermal throttling which AMD appears to be doing. (I've my fans on screaming on load because when my 5800x3d hits 90 degrees Celsius my system blue screens. 5900x did the same. Never had that with Intel, that just a slow down to crawling speed.

Long story short: choose a platform with enough pcie lanes and the biggest baddest cpu you can afford. From what I read the AM5 platform once again is plagued by all kinds of weird agesa bugs so I wouldn't touch that platform with a ten feet pole. But my opinion is colored after all the problems I had with amd.

What you're saying is true: pay more now will result in a longer life. Just choose wisely (an 13900 is not choosing wisely ;)

For gaming the gpu is more important of course. I would go with an Intel 1x500 or 1x700, ddr5 and the biggest nvidia gpu you can afford. Yup, also there I had very bad experiences with ATI. I mean AMD.

Why 1x: if I'm correct the new Intel gen is just around the corner. I would wait those 2 months.

In your case, IF you're happy with the am4 platform and your setup is stable.... And if your vrm can handle it.... Why not slot an 5800x/5900x/5800x3d in there and see how far those 300and change bucks get you? The jump from 2x00 to 5x00 is giganourmous I can say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is an unusual experience,

I've had a 2800x,3700x, 5800x3d built other computers with 5600x and 5600x3d. Totaling 4 computers on am4 in my house, and all are working fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Just add more usb devices and an usb dac. Shit would happen. The usb problems were ignored and worse flat out denied for years. Then all of a sudden an agesa update fixed it.. Then after 8 months or so another update broke it again. And now it's fixed again.

Several other bios settings just never have worked. Example? Ever heard of EDC? Yeah, neither did AMD. Never worked as it should.

AM4 AGESA is a bug fest. And if you read the boards AM5 does not look much better.

Asus X470 strix-f with 2700x, 5900x. Gigabyte X570 master with 2700x (terrible), 5900 and 5800x3d.

Exceeding the Thermal limit does not result in throttling on AMD. It results in both boards in blue screens. The system doesn't throttle : it halts.

Not everyone has experienced these bugs and if you didnt: I'm happy for you. But I did experience them.

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