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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Disclosure: I bought one because of the idea and dream. It's...okay-ish. I love the idea, but the execution is going to be a time-based thing. They need to fix a lot of issues with power consumption, and I get this will take time, but I just don't understand where their projections for performance and battery life came from on Linux. They have entire papers written on the subject, and a lot of documentation on specific kernel issues and distros, but this is like a Beta. I'm afraid for the 16" AMD version I'm also expecting soon, but got delayed. I REALLY want to love this project, but it's not there yet.

Would love to hear other's experiences.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I have the same feelings. I was in the market for a laptop after a long time of desktop use only. I went for it because I love the idea of owning my hardware without any corporate bullshit. But the whole laptop feels very beta, which can be OK, but the price is also quite high.

Pros:

  • formfactor, I love the screen
  • switches for camera and mic
  • open source & Linux
  • Firmware Updates are a breeze
  • easy access to hardware
  • you can use your own ram and disk
  • Magnets, everywhere

Cons:

  • They promised shipment early Q3 for batch 1, I got it early Q4
  • opening the laptop is quite hard, the groove is to small/finicky
  • I hate the expansion cards. They are too hard to pop out, you need so much power to get them out.
  • only four ports, that's if you don't count your power supply. Very weak
  • clicking with the TouchPad is very mid, borderline bad
  • restarting causes my power supply to stop working, I need to unplug and insert it again. And I mean I need to unplug the power supply, not the laptop.
  • graphics problems, constant noise artifacts
  • default sound is very bad, search for equalizer Configs, it makes the speakers bearable
  • black screens where I need to close the lid, wait for sleep and open again for me to be able to work again
  • Fingerprint reader does not work
  • General Linux Problems, Kubuntu has a few issues, other distros might have a better experience
  • no worldwide shipping. I'm waiting for my visa for Japan and won't be able to get any shipping of replacement parts over there.

On a sidenote, I probably broke my screen a few days ago while trying the fix/debug the graphics/noise problems. I don't know how I fucked up, but 5cm of the screen is permanently black now... On a positive note, replacing it supposedly is quite easy. I hope they ship it fast.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some of those Cons sound pretty bad, especially the graphics problems. A lot of those I figure I could live with, but some, like the constant noise on the graphics or a low-quality touchpad would be just too much to tolerate.

I am currently awaiting my (pretty damn expensive) Framework 16 at this time, and I can only hope my experience will be a bit better than yours...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know if those are Amd, framework or Linux issues and who is to blame. The cpu is very new so there might be more driver issues than normal. Hopefully these issues get resolved with future updates. The first firmware update didn't help my issues.

Most of the time the noise is negligible, but with dark screens and resource intensive tasks it gets more noticeable and pronounced. But it's better than the screen tearing other users experience.

I'm wishing you luck that most of the issues are resolved when they ship the framework 16. I'm very tempted to get that one as well, just for a custom ortho keyboard if they ever make one...

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