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No one tells you when you buy the car all of the shit you are agreeing to. This needs to be changed.

This car doesn't let you drive over 80mph. It reads speed limit signs and has a database apparently. The owners manual says it will provide that data to law enforcement.

This is insane. There needs to be awareness of this so people can, at the very least, know to ask before they buy. As it stands no one even knows this shit until they sign the papers and look at the owners manual.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Many of these features are required by law in the US for cars that have ADAS (advanced driver assistance systems). The car has to monitor what's happening and what it's doing and record some of that in case there's an accident. It also has to monitor your attentiveness so you don't "accidentally" drift off to sleep while it's in control.

Imagine if his son were driving and got into a crash with ADAS enabled and there weren't any record of whose fault it was, the driver or the car. Ford would be like, "We'll, I guess we'll never know. Good luck with medical bills and a lifetime of suffering."

Sounds like the speed limiter is a setting that can be disabled. As for the other stuff, sharing phone data, that's pretty disgusting. I would guess what they're actually after is whether you're watching the road or playing with your device. Still not okay without explicit consent before you buy the car.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Despite the down voters I appreciate you sharing the context about USA law around ADAS. Not a fan of this, but understanding how we got to a place where cars have this kind of privacy violation baked in is helpful

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I work for a car company, so I thought I'd share what I know. I was sad to see the negative votes. Your comment made my day. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You're very welcome ❤️ I think understanding why things are the way they are is important if we want any agency over it, I always appreciate folks who share their material knowledge of a subject

Hope you have a good one man, take care :)