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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

~~Maybe you should consider the possibility that it's not as "hated" as you think, considering it spawned three direct spinoffs and generally revitalized the franchise.~~

I'm a big ol' dummy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There are tons of interviews, news, etc. and actors and actresses + show runners involved with DS9 talking about its unpopularity at the time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You know what, I misinterpreted your comment.

Though I do think "hated" is a bit much - DS9 certainly was the least popular of the 90s shows, but...it ran for seven years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

@ValueSubtracted

I liked #DS9. It wasn't just one big happy Starfleet crew. The interplay was infinitely more interesting for it.

By contrast, I hated #Voyager because even though there should have been tension between the combined Starfleet and Maquis crews, they ruthlessly and relentlessly suppressed even the slightest appearance of it. Also, I didn't think much of Kathryn Janeway's philosophy.

But for these very reasons, most fans seemed to love Voyager and hate DS9.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

@benfell @ValueSubtracted I loved both of them but obviously DS9 was the better show

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

@benfell @ValueSubtracted I loved Voyager as a kid, but I was 11 when it ended so 🤷‍♂️. Rewatching it now is hard because most episodes leave me with the feeling of missed potential. While it didn't need to be as serialised as DS9 ended up, paying a bit more attention to continuing character threads or subplots across episodes or seasons would have made it a much stronger series. We joke about the torpedo count, but it's a symptom of how little care Voyager took to developing its story.