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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

don't know about you folks but this sounded so arrogant to me:

There was a time when users of Facebook and users of Google Talk were able to chat with each other and with people from self-hosted XMPP servers, before each platform was locked down into the silos we know today. What would stop that from repeating? Well, even if Threads abandoned ActivityPub down the line, where we would end up is exactly where we are now. XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

This is a great read for anyone curious about what happens when a greedy platform that grows at all costs "helps" an open platform.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's weird to hear someone say "Google Chat killed Messenger apps" when it is so very clear that cell phones did that all on their own.

I respect this person's passion, but his history is slanted, to say the very least.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That era was still too early for widespread self-hosting and people were barely discovering all that internet tech. So what Jabber/XMPP offered was still neither appealing nor user-friendly enough.

Moreover, it was Whatsapp that fixed your mobile number as your username that ruined Jabber's momentum, not Google. Google Talk or Chat had never reached a notable market share.

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