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First time when you ssh into your Linux terminal and you gotta “sudo crontab -e” or something and it’s like “what editor do you want to use?” and nano sounds lame so you choose vim cause the sound is cool when you say it and then you have to wipe the whole comp and start over

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

How do I exit Vim?

escape colon w q

One of life's great mysteries

escape colon w q

I'm pretty sure it's impossible

it is literally. the first result on google.

The best way is to change to another terminal and forcequit it from there

escape then Shift+Z twice also works. or shift+Z shift+Q to quit without saving.

Or hard restart your entire computer

Are you people allergic to search engines or someth--

Bill Joy made vi impossible to exit because he wanted the source to always be open

siiiiiiiiigh

Yes, I'm an old man yelling at cloud, but Vim and Neovim are fantastic text editors that really are worth the half hour you'll spend running through the tutorial to learn them, and the subsequent two weeks you'll spend installing plugins and configuring it exactly to your liking. It really does make writing software more efficient and really doesn't deserve the reputation it gets from "vim is hard to exit lmao" memes made by people who haven't bothered to change their $EDITOR to nano, had it launch automatically when they tried to write a commit message, and instantly decided it was just yet another piece of arcane 80s Unix bullshit

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

vi isn't a text editor as much as it's a text manipulation language.

It has a syntax, grammar, idioms, and, yes, a learning curve.

But once you learn it, it's as close to a brain-computer interface as I've experienced. You start thinking about edits as chainable operations and it literally becomes muscle memory -- if you ask someone experienced with vi how they just did a complex sequence of edits, chances are they'll have to stop and consciously walk through it because they literally didn't have to think about it the first time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

got any online course recommendations? my college recommended missing semester for the basics of the basics, but i know there are so many more and other vim workflows (easy motions etc)

although i should first start getting into touch typing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

In the terminal write ‘vimtutor’, that covers the basics.

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