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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (20 children)

I think it's more constructive to interpret what someone means, rather than with our own definitions that occasionally go against the common vernacular.

That's why pointing out that today's authoritarian dictatorships aren't communism - while correct - is always interpreted as a True Scotsman. They're differentiating "crony" capitalism because they haven't been convinced that capitalism inevitably leads to the rich buying laws. They think we just need the right people in charge.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (16 children)

But the same applies the other way. Libertarians argue that centralizing power (redistribution, workers owning production, etc) in any manner inevitably leads to oppression.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (10 children)

How are redistribution and workers owning production centralization? I mean from a "libertarian perspective".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When I say redistribution, I mean someone taking from one person and distributing what they took to others. In practical terms that means taxes and government programs. That centralizes power to the government to make decisions how redistribution happens and who benefits. Or so is the Libertarian argument.

The workers owning production is a bit more complex. I think most libertarians would point to the like of Soviet Communism where state power organized labor. Again, centralization. But private co-ops and such exist so I don’t think they can mark it across the the board.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

libertarians believe wholeheartedly in freedom of association and the right to voluntary exchange. As soon as you start talking forced anything, you've lost us.

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