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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

As someone in the IT administrating department, i feel like the new wave of software engineers have a frighteningly low understanding of the system they're developing on. It appears as they are making plain code monkeys these days

How is your impression on this?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not the OP but been in IT for a while. The current generation entering the workforce have been using tech since birth but do not seem to understand or care how it actually works. They are generally poor troubleshooters and seem hesitant to ask for help. I figure pandemic lockdowns and remote learning made this worse.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please don't generalise us like this. I'm currently in second semester and working for my company, working on a codebase. I very much care for how my stuff works, and I also know a fair bit I think. I troubleshoot as a hobby and am passionate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I build and support new servers/racks to startups who throw money at new system hardware first, but no money to hire an IT to manage it. I've had too many awkward/frustrating interactions with software developers, data scientists, and even "CTO's" (of their 5-20 person company) to suggest they hire someone more familiar with system hardware to locally configure and support their new systems if any issues arises- an IT person...

I'm sure you are one of the good ones, but I agree with OP that next wave of software developers (and data scientists) aren't great with system hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They are not great it because they have been raised on infrastructure that is composed of terrafom'd fargate + s3 + rds stacks. If they are a little more complex , logs get tossed into cloud watch, terraform interacts with route53 and ACM to get dns + certs.

At no point do they learn how/why stuff works the way it does, just that you can drop this chunk of teraform from chatgpt into your projects repo and now your using https.

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