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[–] [email protected] 217 points 9 months ago (57 children)

Can we stop acting like Israel is fucking normal? This shit doesn’t even happen in the US.

[–] LemmyExpert 30 points 9 months ago (22 children)

It happens everywhere, with increasing frequency. Depending on who's calling for killing who, it's either praised or giggled at or condemned. Off the top of my head...

Snoop Dogg had a mock execution of Trump, where he shot a Trump caricature clown in the head

In South Africa, there are prominent groups dancing around & chanting, "Kill the Boer! The farmer! SHOOT to KILL!! Brrrrrrrap!" But this has been justified because it's "an old cultural chant", totally not a threat. Malema has been called out for this, and he has reassured everyone, "We Have Not Called For The Killing Of White People... At Least For Now" But he "cannot 'guarantee' what will happen in the future".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"shot in the head" that's misrepresentation big time. He shoots a gun towards the clowns head but it's one of those gag guns with a flag coming out with the word "bang" on it... Which rhymes with Trump being depicted as a clown. It's far more metaphorical than the other examples and you need to be pretty fucking dense to see it as a call for violence against Trump or anyone else.

The Israeli one and the South African ones are in my opinion comparable in that they both call for explicit violence and their only defense is basically "it's art, I can do what I want"

[–] LemmyExpert -1 points 9 months ago

Call to violence might be a stretch. However, I think it's either incredibly naive or incredibly dishonest to overlook the depiction of a gun, pointed at a person, the trigger being pulled, the gun going bang, and the president/clown flinching in response.

You only point a gun at something if you intend to shoot it, possibly kill it. There is no exception.

It is indeed an artistic expression & not real, but the imagery is unmistakable. He casually plays out this scene & displays it to the world, basically saying, "Yeah, if this happened...I'm totally okay with this. I put this in my rap videos. No big deal."

And I think a lot of people on Lemmy feel the same way about Trump.

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