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I would bet dollars to donuts that this poor woman supported abortion restrictions before she wanted one. Based on the way she's talking about it, she's acting like most women (not her, of course) seeking abortions are irresponsible. And the end of the article, she has a quote that 6 weeks is not long enough for responsible women, as though there is any length of time that makes sense for legislators to make medical decisions for women and their doctors.
She's making a legal case presenting herself as the perfect case scenario. It's just a tactic to present the best argument possible to get the law overturned for everyone, even people who can't pretend to be perfect.
No, see this is why I'm irritated by the argument. By implying that there is a "perfect," you concede far too much to the fascists. The best argument possible is this is a private decision between a woman and her doctor. Anyone who disagrees is an asshole, and should be made to feel like one.
If there was a law that we stone women who commit adultery to death, you wouldn't argue against it by pointing out the child bride of a coma patient fell in love with her husband's caregiver, and they found comfort in each others' arms. No, the law is bad because it is barbaric, evil, and misogynistic.
By trying to argue that she did everything "responsible" to avoid a pregnancy, you leave the door open for the fascist to say "ah-ha, but she didn't do everything she could, because she got pregnant." There's no compromise to be had with fascism.
Ok, when you can win in court with that strategy, go for it.
In the meanwhile, I'll accept the most likely to win a good outcome and get this law overturned. Sorry, I'll forever be realpolitik like that.
If you think she will get the law overturned, and it will stop there, you're in for a sad ride.
Ok, well you wave your magic wand and fix all the problems all at once. I, for one, am not going to hold my breath for that. Better is better.
I'd rather push for actual progress than attempt to compromise with fascists and concede half their argument. Progress is the slow boring of hard boards. Conceding ground is giving comfort to those who would oppress and subjugate everyone else.
Overturning a law that hurts women isn't progress? Because the way they're choosing to argue isn't pure enough for you?
If you shift the overton window into pure fascism in the process, no it is not progress.
If you insist on ideological purity even when it will obstruct a tangible victory, then YOU have actually let the fascists win.
How can you not see that? Your pure argument fails, their fascist law stands, the fascists win. Or you make an argument that is distasteful, get the law overturned, and give real, tangible benefits to the people who need it, therefore the fascists DID NOT WIN.
I'm not fighting a philosophical war; I'm fighting a REAL one.