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Roku’s Ultimatum: Surrender Jury Trial Rights or Lose Access to Your TVs (programming.dev)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Did your Roku TV decide to strong arm you into giving up your rights or lose your FULLY FUNCTIONING WORKING TV? Because mine did.

It doesn't matter if you only use it as a dumb panel for an Apple TV, Fire stick, or just to play your gaming console. You either agree or get bent.

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[–] Technus 174 points 5 months ago (38 children)

Worst part is, now you can't find a dumb TV anymore. The closest thing out there are "commercial signage displays" which are just dumb TVs with limited inputs and usually without remotes, but 25-50% more expensive because "commercial" (and because they won't be able to continue making money by showing you ads and selling your data) and a lot of retailers won't let you order one without a business account, or force you to order in bulk.

And every Neanderthal I complain to is like "but smart TVs have so many more features," like, bro, I can make any TV the smartest fucking TV in the world by plugging it into the desktop PC I'm gonna keep right next to it anyway. All the "smart" bullshit just gets in the way. I've yet to encounter a smart TV UI that didn't require a dozen button presses to change inputs and spend two seconds or more re-drawing the UI with EVERY INPUT because they put the cheapest processors they can find in these pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Computer monitors are dumb tv

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Good luck finding a 65 inch computer monitor

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Here you go.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, thanks for the link but, if you actually try to find it on Amazon for example it doesn't exist. So that's not terribly helpful.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's also three times the price of a 65 inch 4k TV.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

No, the 65 inch 4K TV is three times cheaper because of the smart features. They sell the data they collect from you, and the ads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The thing is 5 years old so that's hardly surprising. I just googled 65 inch monitor and this was the first hit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Just checked Geizhals and apparently there's none currently, the largest is the HP Omen X, 64.5". Close enough though I'd say. There's 55 monitors 46" and higher but only 7 52" and higher.